Monday, January 25, 2010

Region 1 Fishing Reports (Northwestern KS) 2010

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152 comments:

Eric Conley said...

Hey wondering what you guys can tell me about the river above Webster Lake, I see that they are going to stock it with trout and am thinking about driving out there to try it i like fishing in the rivers of Coloado for trout but don't want to drive 150+ miles to find that its some crummy little stream or that its a deep deep river thats not very good for fly fishing, curious as to depth wadability? Thanks

drakewoodie

Steve said...

The river currently is running around 60 cfs – averages somewhere around 30 to 50 feet wide with good holes and some good runs and is fairly open and easy to fly fish - the trout tend to hold tight to cover - log jams, deadfalls, undercut banks, etc. - the light color of the sand bottom might have something to do with this - much of this stretch is tough to nymph because of sticks and snags, and getting fish to come up on top to feed is generally not very productive - swimming tiny spinners, flashy streamers, wooly buggers, etc in the current near cover has worked well in the past - just one stocking so far this year - 250 fish ranging to 4 lbs went in on Jan 28 - next loads tentatively scheduled for mid - Feb and mid -Mar.

Steve Price
Regional Fisheries Supervisor
KS. Dept. of Wildlife & Parks
Box 338
Hays, KS 67601
(785) 628-8614

Bledsoe said...

I caught a 6lb rainbow on Fly rod at Lakewood in Salina. Also caught to other little ones and a brown.

Jason said...

How is the fishing @ Wilson? Anyone been out there the past few days? Interested in Walleye and Stripers mostly, but I am interested in hearing about the crappie, white bass, etc... So, what's the scoop?

Thanks!!

Anonymous said...

Fished Wilson last Wednesday and Thursday. Only one keeper walleye on Wednesday. Thursday was a little better caught 15 whites and a few small stripers. Some people must have been starving because they felt the need to keep stripers that were under a pound.

Anonymous said...

Fished Wilson last Wednesday and Thursday. Only caught one keeper walleye on Wednesday. Thursday did a little better caught 15 whites and a few small stripers. Some people their must have been starving because they were keeping stripers that were under a pound.

Bledsoe said...

Fished Wilson last wensday caught 5 stripers, biggest was 6lbs. smallest was over 3lbs. Also caught a couple dozen stripers and white bass in hell creek.

Anonymous said...

was wondering if anyone has had any luck walking the dam at glen elder for walleye?

ksgoodolboy said...

Anyone been trying for any whites in the river up from Kanopolis yet? I imagine that the warmer weather this week will get them fired up. It is me anyway.

Anonymous said...

Would anyone be willing to point me to a shoreline access for white bass fishing around Kanopolis? Have never been there but am going to camp there for a day next week and would like to try for some whites if they are in the river. Thank you for any information you would share.

Anonymous said...

Try up by the old iron bridge location. The bridge is no longer there but most everyone knows where it is if you ask someone fishing in the upper end of the lake. White bass show up anywhere in that area and will bite when they travel by. good luck. fishing has been ok to slow the days i have been there.

Anonymous said...

fished by the iron bridge, which is by the farris/ferris caves, no luck the water was still pretty cold. went to loder point after that, caught one little white on sm white twister tail, should pick up fast with warmer weather

Anonymous said...

How about webster or glenn elder has the fishing cooled off any out there i'm heading out that way next 2 weekends and was planning on doing some fishing

Anonymous said...

Fished Kanopolis around Feris Caves and the Iron Bridge to almost into the lake Saturday morning, fish seemed slow everone caught 2-3, but I didn't see anything special... yet. Another week and they should really be goin. Caught my 3 on 1/4 jig with twister tail.

Anonymous said...

What is the scoop on Stripers at Wilson? any size (10lbs+) or numbers worth fishing up there? Don't have the time to run to Arkansas when I want to catch stripes.

Anonymous said...

Had a pretty good day out at glenn elder today limited out on wipers along with several whites bitting and even caught 2 walleyes went up there to catch some crappie but didnt get any of them but over all a very nice day will be heading out to lovewell on the 18th and see what i catch up there

Anonymous said...

04/30/2010 Fished Ottawa SFL in the evening and only managed to catch 2 small largemouths.

James said...

Headed to Glen Elder this weekend (was going to go to Wilson but the KWA tourny is there this weekend). Any advice on finding the walleyes? I have a topo map and can't seem to locate Sandy Beach or Harry's Isle. as noted in the reports this week.

Thanks guys!

Anonymous said...

When you show up go to the state park and go to the main office and ask the clerks behind the counter and they can hook you up with a nice detailed map. Why it's not on the KDWP main web page is beyond me. I do know that the sand beach is on the south side of the lake but with out takeing you there it's hard to explain where it's at and i'm not sure where the island is i think it's between campground 3 fish attractor and granit cove and i caught walleye all over the lake good luck

gary said...

fished Kanopolis fri may 14. very tough fishing. we fished for crappie, and finally found a few fish in the back of marina cove. they were almost all very small, about 6-7 inches. haven't had much luck at this lake on crappie this year.

kanbobcat said...

Fished Cedar Bluff Saturday 5/22. Very windy, but braved the waves anyway. Caught 7 walleye all over four pounds with the biggest being six pounds and almost 26" long. Wind had blown the shad into the shallows in the back of cove #4. We were using roadrunners tipped with nightcrawlers in 5 feet of water. Lost about as many as we caught but, can't complain about a five pound average.

Anonymous said...

Kanbobcat--were you fishing out of a boat?

richard nagy said...

Fished Wilson Saturday. Drifted shad in all depths,in 30 M.P.H. wind, into about 20 feet.No luck. Anchored off Lucas fished shad no luck. Found my 19 foot Trophy handle3d the rough sea's quite well. Well trip #1 fish 1 fisherman 0.

Anonymous said...

Are there any stripers at Wilson down towards the dam or bridge yet

Anonymous said...

Fished Wilson Friday th 28th of May. Trolled Blue Chrome Hot N Tot over points. Picked up two Walleye one @ 18 1/2 " and another @ 16 1/2 ". In 15 to 18 feet of water. Trolled for stripers no luck.
Trip two fisherman 2 fish 0.

Anonymous said...

Aren't those perch a treat at Wilson. Not a problem according the kdwp. What BS.

Anonymous said...

They will clean your hook off but are hard to catch, so it is hard to get rid of them!

Anonymous said...

That is for sure. Use a tiny hook and you can catch them by the thousands. Just remember we don't have perch problem. The finally put some walleye in the lake. To bad they will be perch food.

Anonymous said...

Ah c'mon guys I catch lots of
wallys and they're full of white
perch!! NOT!! If anybody catches
any fish with a white perch inside
PLEASE give us a post, I'm really
interested!!!!

Anonymous said...

We have caught walleye with perch in them. Usually bigger walleye (above twenty inches). They eat them. When the walleyes are below eighteen inches, I don't believe that is their main forage.

Anonymous said...

Why do some of the biologists in Region 1 not update their fishing reports? Some of the fishing reports for Kirwin, Webster, Norton lakes have said the exact same thing for the last 2 months?

Anonymous said...

I agree i go to webster from time to time and i've never caught a crappie off of the bow city bridge but i have caught some Large mouth bass over there. I always catch some walleye by the dam and catch whites all over the lake the lake is full of them. but it would be nice for a more up to date report.

Anonymous said...

Was up at glenn elder this last weekend and the whites and wipers are going crazy up there also did ok on crappie but didnt catch any cats and thats what we were really lookin for

Anonymous said...

Was woderin if theres any walleye or crappie up at banner creek lake?I'm goin up there tonight or tommorow.

shanerz said...

Went to Ottawa State Lake water is muddy but still caught one bass on big bright spinnerbait and my buddy caught several bass off topwater.

reno138 said...

Wilson, Sunday 27th. Stripers on top until 10:00 a.m. Caught 3 nice one's all around 25"

Anonymous said...

What part of Wilson?

Anonymous said...

Hey, this one's for Tommy Berger,
you might check the seep stream for
yoy brown trout. We caught 100's of
small brownies 2"-3" in a bait net
below the concrete dam.

Anonymous said...

caught a nice 7 lb striper monday 6-28 at midnite using cut white perch, cut white perch makes great cut bait and easy to catch and free. Lucas campsite area, lake wilson

Anonymous said...

IS NOW ILLEGAL TO HAVE A WHITE PERCH ALIVE IN YOUR POSSESSION - IF YOU CATCH IT AND WANT TO KEEP IT - IT HAS TO BE DEAD IN A COOLER OR LIVEWELL. THEY ARE NO LONGER LEGAL AS LIVE BAIT FOR STRIPERS OR OTHER FISH!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Been to a few different places in region 1 and havent been haveing any luck on anything been useing all the old tried and ture fishing techniques but havent been having any luck just wondering if it's just me?

Shanerz said...

Me and a couple of buddys fished some farm ponds had a great time be sure to have permission!

Anonymous said...

If it were me, I would try the dam faces of kirwin and norton for channel cat. Cut carp or chicken livers under a bobber work the best for me, but caught a 9# on a 2 inch piece of crawdad tail once. Start early (have rigs in water before sun up) and stay till about 8:00 a.m. or so, depending on the sunlight. Fillets will turn out better if catch is kept cold for the trip home. The july/august full moon is a good time to fish this way.

Anonymous said...

KDWP,

I was just curious if there are any plans to stock any other species of fish in Rooks County Lake? I was wondering if this lake could support Saugeye, Wiper, or Crappie? Some of the other smaller lakes in the region such as Antelope Lake and Sheridan SFL have these species so it kind of made me wonder if these fish could survive in Rooks.

Anonymous said...

were those stocked or naturally hatched 2"-3" brown trout in the seep stream?

Mark said...

Rooks State Fishing lake is monitored annualy to assess the fish population and fish stockings are determined from the sampling results. I would like to remind anglers that it is illegal to release any fish into public waters unless caught from that lake. Crappie have not been observed in the samples yet, however, reports of anglers catching crappie have been heard. Unlike Antelope and Sheridan SFL, Rooks SFL is historically a temperary impoundment. Rooks SFL will continue to be monitored and stocked according to the sampling results and water levels.

Mark A. Shaw
District Fissheries Biologist
1140 10 Road
Stockton, KS 67669
785-425-6775

Anonymous said...

"Been to a few different places in region 1 and havent been haveing any luck on anything been useing all the old tried and ture fishing techniques but havent been having any luck just wondering if it's just me?"

It's not just you. It's been tough, Cedar bluff for me, just havn't caught the numbers or bigger fish the last week and half.

Anonymous said...

Now i'm reading the fishing report and seen that lovewell is shut down i wonder if that doesent have somthing to do with it Blue-Green Algae Bloom i've never heard of anything like it shutting a lake down whats that going to do to the fishing. Is it going to kill all the fish off? how does it happen?

Anonymous said...

what species are you fishing for at cedar bluff?

reno138 said...

Fished Wilson Sunday the 18th. Four Stripers. One on top with a zara spook, 3 downrigging @ 25 foot. Running 4 inch sasswy shad.

Nice fish

Anonymous said...

The blue/green colored water looks like an algae but it is really a bacteria with chlorophyll in it. It forms in hot weather with lots of nitrogen. During the day it produces 02 at high rates. At night it consumes 02 and makes C02. That sounds like what all plants do. It keeps going until all nitrogen and phosphorus in the water is used up. Sometimes the bloom releases a toxic chemical that will kill fish, frogs,crawfish and most everything else. The chemical is present for a short time during the release. It supposedly starts from fecal bacteria, could be livestock, geese or ducks, but I can't/shouldn't point any fingers. Mostly because I don't know. Info. here is from a bass fishing forum linked with someone in eastern PA. that has a catfish farm.

Boomer said...

I am heading up to Kanopolis this weekend and I have never fished there before. I was wondering if anybody had any tips and where to fish for whites and saugeye?
Thank you

Anonymous said...

any place that has ample shade up to 11:00 a.m.. Any place with shade up to 1:00 p.m. would be better. Look for wind riffled banks with shade.

Anonymous said...

Drop shot rig might work if you can figure the depth fish are at. Some fish locators show thermocline development in manual mode.(eagle)

Birddog said...

The Whites are in the North East corner of the Dam to Loder Point. Try the flats drop off for Walleye

Anonymous said...

8/6/10-8/8/10 Wilson
Downrigging in 50 -60 feet of water. Caught 9 Walleye. Trolling Lead core 6 to 7 colors, caught 8 Stripers all 24 - 26 inches 4 to 6 lbs. Walleye in the 19 inch range.

Anonymous said...

Wish I had the gumption to try all that. Sounds like work, but fun too.

Anonymous said...

Using Lead Core is not work. Just a inexpensive way of downrigging. 17lb. test Lead core or bigger. Something along the lines of a Penn 309 reel, with levelwind and a fairly stout pole. Run lead core to a 3-way swivel. Run two leaders off one about 2 1/2 foot long the second about 4 foot long. Tie on two 1 oz. jig heads with 4" Sassy Shad. Drop them in and go!






using Lead Core is notwork

Anonymous said...

Are leadcore knot tying properties similar to monofilament.

reno138 said...

Fished Kanopolis over the weekend.Did well on Whites trolling on and off the flats. Also some wipers mixed in. Evertime we trolled in 9 foot of water, we picked up a lot of small Walleye. And don't forget to throw a few cat fish in are mixed trolling bag. It all proved to be fun and a great weekend.

Anonymous said...

Seems like the crappie had a good spawn last year. Everywhere I go there are lots of 7"-9" fish. The future looks promising. One exception has been Kanopolis, maybe because the whites are so thick, seems like the whites are everywhere.

Anonymous said...

Have everybody start keeping all of the two pounders. (kanopolis)

Anonymous said...

They are 10"+/-, probably good eating though. But they're everywhere.

Anonymous said...

A deep fryer and 2 gallons of Crisco is what I use. Manual or electric fillet knife. Doesn't matter. Also, 1 tall boy of beer is mixed with the batter.

Anonymous said...

If I was to crappie fish in the region 1 area, I would fish the Mark Shaw managed lakes. His KWPD fishing information night video presentations seemed to be the most informative.

Anonymous said...

Mark Shaw does a good job for habitat at the lakes he manages. He's also had a lot of help from Mother nature. Scott Waters also does a fine job for habitat at his lakes. With the big increases in angling pressure their services are deeply appreciated and I feel should be a model for all KS lakes. The lake assoc. at some lakes do a good job, but lack the equipment needed to build quality off-shore attractors, and tend to be dominated by bass fisherman. I'm not down playing their efforts because they are appreciated, just pointing out some facts. Anybody who has sunk some cover knows this is not a easy task. I think the call for help is a great tool. Just remember when you anchor up in brush that it took a lot of effort to get in there and destroying it doesn't benefit anybody.

Anonymous said...

I went to Glen Elder yesterday and boy did I get off some loonngg casts. The fishing was consistent all day, many crappies 8' deep over various depths with plenty of small fish. Had a few whites and some walleye too. They were all in the rocks with the shad. Crappies were 7"-14" with the 8"-9" fish DOMINATING the catch. Had fun though, lakes kinda stained though.

Anonymous said...

Went and fished Wilson Sunday. Got 2 stripers on the south side near the Hell creek bridge. 4 07 and 4 12. one on lead core with a 4 in swimbait and the other on a three way rig, swim bait again.

Anonymous said...

Yes'm fished Wilson, way out west, there seems to be an abundance of white perch. But boy howdy the zebra mussels are coming on strong, and by the sizes of there shells I think they've been here a little longer than explained. Maybe we ought to start thinking about boat cleaning stations to STOP the spread of them.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't even be on this blog if my fishing partner wasn't always an hour late. Maybe we will be on time for the sunrise bite!

Anonymous said...

It's Sunday- You two guys must be Broncos fans.

Anonymous said...

I've fished Kanopolis a couple times this past week with marginal results. Very few crappie which is disheartning to me, lots of whites of all sizes everywhere, and some saugeyes and walleyes anywhere from 4' to 16' on the rocky points and deeper breaks and managing to get some keepers too. All the fish have been shallower than 20' with the 10' to 15' being the best.

Anonymous said...

We've been catching limits of channels out of our decoy spread duck hunting the Bottoms. 2-3# avg, 3 guys 28 fish Sun. sure passes the time by.

Anonymous said...

Duckhunter are you serious? What are you using for bait?

Anonymous said...

Divers!

Anonymous said...

How do you put water out when it catches fire? Because Wilson is on fire!

Anonymous said...

What does that mean? Is there an oil spill on the lake or did you catch a fish?

Anonymous said...

We did well there yesterday, the lock-n-talk and glassers are heavy too. Did I cross anchor ropes with you? I'm sorry, but could you move over a little so we can fish here too, you guys are catching all the fish!

Anonymous said...

Don't get the code talk. Figure glassers are walleye---but lock-n-talk are a mystery. We don't use anchor ropes or fight the flotilla crowd at Lou's or elsewhere. Have been limiting at other quiet places on Wilson. The "eyes" have been super quality. Only problem for next few years is there are no shorts being caught. Should have been stocking---like all the other central Kansas lakes have done annually.

Anonymous said...

Yea, heavy glassers on cut wperch, chumming heavily for cats but glassers coming alot. Those lock-n-talk boys were back, some serious singing on the drag. Mussels for crappie over at the k, hedgerow and the crack by handicap.

Anonymous said...

The "code": glassers are guys with binoculars finding their own fish. Lock-n-talk are the friendly folks who pull up and start talking while they get their wpts setting. There hasn't been much originality out there, but the gulls are the thickest I've seen in years. Most guys are ending up with 2-3 walleye after a good day of fishing, the elitest, well, them boys just catch fish and we will have to hope they spill some info. The anchor ropes thing is crowding in on someone else

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the code decipher. Gotta chuckle out of lock-n-talk. Don't know about elitist---but---we have consistently limited on nice walleye since 1st of Oct. or so. For us, SHALLOW has been the key. Haven't run into the GPS crowd yet and have pretty much been left alone. The stripers have been fun and easy under the gulls. Typical fall fishing.

Anonymous said...

To the gentleman in the white coat and his fishing partner who were bait fishing in the pool between pole 16 and 17 at the Kanopolis seep stream around noon, Friday, Nov 19:
My sincere apologies to you both. After arriving home I checked the regs and I was mistaken about the lure-only fishing section (pole 9-16)on the stream. You were entirely correct and legal. I can only hope I see you there again sometime soon and personally apologize for being a jerk about it. I hope I didn't spoil your day of fishing.

Anonymous said...

Quite a few boats at Wilson on Friday (19th). Anybody know how they did? Walleye bite still good? Or, were they chasing the stripers?

Rory said...

Not sure how they did, but I suspect it was the same crowd as Saturday. We didn't launch due to the fog-didn't feel very safe.

Anonymous said...

Kirwin Shh! They ain't talking!

Anonymous said...

Any ice forming on any of the lakes?

Anonymous said...

This board is like crickets.

Anonymous said...

I think what you meant was if you're board, get your reels and turn them and and clean em' up if they sound like crickets. Right?

Anonymous said...

Caught em pretty good on the ice on Tuesday. Whites and stripes pounding up west. Not many folks out and about. A couple lookers. Ice up to 4".

Froggz Bass Club said...

I have been hearing about the phenomenal ice fishing at glen elder the last few years and am anxious to try. I know they have been banging them recently as well. I have had very limited success and was curious if anyone could give me any tips or would be willing to take a guy out and show him how its done. I would be willing to take anyone out on milford for some big smallies or walleyes in the spring.
thanks!
-Jesse
mystro82@hotmail.com

Anonymous said...

Ice fishing any popular lake is not too difficult. Just go out and see where the crowd forms and see what lures are being used and what they are catching. Not allot of pioneering involved. Most guys at the Glen drop small spoons or jigs. Not really any secrets involved. Some days one color may be better than another, etc. Structure is a factor---but the veteran fisherman will be on the favorite spots at first good ice so it is not hard to find. If you start catching more than others---you usually get company real quick. That is the good and bad of ice fishing I reckon.

Anonymous said...

Went to Glen Elder today caught a limit of crappie in 5 hrs...had slabs of 1 and 2 LBS 12 to 14 inchers..had alot of people around Me but it was well worth it...fished the causeway and the ice was 14 inch thick...better bring a gas auger ....tube jig work best ..fished about 9 ft over brush piles

Anonymous said...

Ok i have a question for the game warden,

Here is my question.

When I go to a lake and catch my legal limit of fish and have them in my livewell and I leave the lake do I have to drain the water out of the livewell because of the fear of transporting zebra mussels accidently? If I am headed straight home to clean my legal catch of fish I can leave the lake water in my livewell to keep my fish fresh and alive until I process them at my house right? I understand that I can not take a livewell full of one lakes water and take it to another lake for fear of accidental transporting zebra mussel to another lake, but I can take lake water home in my livewell to keep my legal limit fresh for processing at home right? After I get home and process my fish I would dump the lake water out onto the ground at my house.

Thanks in advance for your reply,

A concerned Angler who does not want to get a ticket.

Anonymous said...

No you cannot transport lakewater in your boat for ANY REASON. It is that simple.

Anonymous said...

Take a cooler and put them on ice. They will bleed out and taste better especially if the water is warm or it is warm outside.

Anonymous said...

Does any one have the gps coordinates for the north south fork junction brush pile at Glen Elder, also, hows the ice up there, headin up friday on my day off, hope the snow hasn't hurt it too bad. Thank you

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding? Just go out and join the 50-60 guys sittin on it and save it. No co-ord.s needed. Ice was fine over the weekend with 200 plus guys proving it.

Anonymous said...

Last time I was up it was -8° and there were only 3-4 guys out there and we had some trouble getting on to it, couldn't find any old holes because of the snow. Gps cords would save me time and trouble if I run into that same situation after my 3 1/2 hour drive up there.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why the state website has a link for gps spots there, lists this spot on the menu but has nothing else to offer.... Any one?

Anonymous said...

Have you ever tried fishing for rainbow trout?

Anonymous said...

Go to the spot with the big X on it, there you will find the fish.

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it make more sense to find a place closer to home for ice fishing. A lake that you're most familiar with would be the best bet. Doesn't matter if it's a farm pond or a 10,000 acre lake. That way you could break out the Vexilar or an Aqua-view and have all the spots figured out for future years instead of spending 7hrs on the road every time Elder comes a calling.

Scott Waters said...

I added the coordinates for the two brushpiles on the west end today. Just click on the Good Fishing Spots link and select either Old Causeway Road Bed or North/South Fork Junction. The coordinates are now included and a map will show you approximately where they are.

Scott Waters
District Fisheries Biologist
Kansas Department of Wildlife & Parks

Anonymous said...

Thank you very much, it is much appreciated, will post results.

Anonymous said...

sounds like someone doesnt want you going to glen! haha

Anonymous said...

I wasn't trying to hinder anybody from going to Glen Elder. If driving that far for ice fishing is your thing- go for it. I imagined myself driving the 3.5 hr. drive for wintertime fishing. On a nice 3rd-4th week of April that would be a good drive, but not in the winter months for fish. If that is the lake (Elder) that he's most familiar with for all or a good portion of his year round fishing success, then yes, go there. But if there's another lake within a 1/2 to 1 hr from home that you know has fish, or you think it could produce, then that would be the way to go about it in my opinion. Advantage being one could go more often being closer to home and life would just be easier. Disadvantage is spending the time finding fish but chances are the way the federal reservoirs/state lakes are managed these days it wouldn't take alot of time.

Anonymous said...

Just for that...Im telling everybody i know to head up to glen elder.

Anonymous said...

Well, if you do that, that will mean more for me elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

Scott,

Its very nice of you to post gps coordinates for the ones who dont have time to do this for themselves. I drove 4 hours and I marked my own spots on the lake but thats another story. Every lake has cycles it goes through. Since Glen does receive so much pressure, we will most likely see some down years in the future with the harvest so high. Just my opinion. To help battle this, I think the creel limits need reduced. Instead of 50 crappie, can we make it 25. It seems once fishermen know where the fish are, it doesnt take much time to load up on fish especially using a flasher. I own one, so I know the advantages of having one. Do you agree with my assesment and if so, what steps are necessary for reducing creel limits?

Thanks,

Anonymous said...

I'm not Scott but I can tell you that crappie are a highly prolific species.

Anonymous said...

Here's an example of how prolific crappie can be. In n.e. Ks , 160 acre Leavenworth Co. lake was drained, renovated with dam repairs, brush, grass and saplings reestablished themselves for 10 years before refilling and all/most previous fish were salvaged, moved or killed. When it was time for restocking for crappie the report I read or heard about, I think it was read, mention only 4 adult crappie being used for the initial stocking. Were more added later, I don't know but I doubt it. Out at Glen Elder if they can keep the water level 1-2 ft. higher during the crappie spawn period (May), there will be more crappie than you'll know what to do with in the future months. That's when good management comes into play to make sure there isn't an overpopulation of crappie because no one wants a bunch of little ones. Like this blogger site mentions- not all views and expressions here are those of KWPD.

Anonymous said...

Went to glen elder yesterday, crappie has slowed way down, managed to pull quite a few nice whites, most were 15", as to the other comments, this is my first year ice fishin and I don't have all the fancy equipment, nor do I want to go out on the 3" of ice at cheney, I feel much safer on the 10"at glen elder.so what if it's a little drive, I've driven to florida to go bass fishing

Anonymous said...

Definitely go to the thicker ice because it's no fun being shoreside on a log wringing the wet clothes out while sitting in your underwear. With clear visability under the ice on a sunny day an Aquaview will work for underwater veiwing but with murky conditions they don't work very well in Kansas. They should enable you to view the brushpile make-up no matter the conditions. It's good to hear that white bass bite while ice fishing. I never really gave them any thought, thanks.

Anonymous said...

I heard years ago about some people ice fishing at Glen Elder who used underwater fishing cameras and located packs off large flatheads. Then they would snag them up. I heard about this several times and was concerned about their ethics. They would drill a lot of holes til they found them concentrated. They weren't necessary hooked in the mouth. I've owned one of these cameras and they can be interesting, but I decided to get more of a surprise with what hits my line.

Anonymous said...

At least they weren't dropping sticks of dynamite down those holes. Boy! that would of cleared everybody off the ice real quick. Any my goodness, it's slippery out there!

Anonymous said...

Ice fishing was good last weekend at Glen Elder. Seen two game wardens checking everyone on the lake on sunday. Probably 100 fishermen? The 2 jerks next to us gave them wardens a hard time and got some tickets. One had no license (and try to walk off) and the other too many poles (and big mouth), I think. Good to see them boys out on the ice earning their paychecks.

Anonymous said...

The flathead is one species I didn't get to see with my underwater camera even though they were 1 st on my list to see. What I learned from using it though is that walleye are far more active in daylight hours than I had previously thought. Deeper, sheared faced rocky formations at least 20 ft. deep is where I'd find them. They seem to just be content playing in the depths all day long staying close to where the rock met the dirt bottom transition area. One thing I also learned from REAL SLOW drifting/trolling with the camera is that largemouth bass were viewed from the bow of the boat and would bolt to deeper water as soon as the viewing lense was close enough to cause them to do so. Point being here is that during a bass tournament there are bass using the same depth of water that the boat is in. They will be within a foot from the bottom but most casting for bass is still directed towards shore. How to catch the bass is anyone's guess. I saw a big drum come up to the camera lense one day. I don't know if those fish are an intelligent species or he/she thought they were looking at an awfully big crawdad. March and October/Nov. are the best months to use the underwater camera.

Anonymous said...

Glen Elder is a great crappie lake..i caught my limit on sunday. There was alot of people out there on the Ice this weekend.I think that this is a great website to shareInfo..I dont understand why people would not want others to travel and go to Glen Elder. I drove from Mcpherson and spent 60dollars in fuel Just to have some old local fishermen telling me to throw my crappie back becuase it was to small. He said let them get bigger for next year..it was 13 inches about 1 LBS...I kept everything that was good enough to filet (boy he was fired up) I try to explain to him that we as anglers need to take the smaller guys out, because they compete so much for food. Glen Elder crappie population will end up with all Dinks if Anglers are too selective on their harvest. Having wipers and stripers is a good thing for bigger crappie population...cant beleave the Glen Elder Lake association voted againts stocking them this year. Cant teach old dogs new tricks

Anonymous said...

Where does it say one person doesn't want another person to travel to Glen Elder? It reads like a suggestion to cut down on wear and tear on the vehicle or offering advice on the effects of driving 3 1/2 hrs back home while being possibly flat tuckered out while driving down the road.

What did the old local say after you told him about keeping the smaller fish because of food competition?

Anonymous said...

I would have told the old local fisherman "but we are throwing all the largemouth bass back". And the creel limit thing because of Glen Elder: PHOOEY!!!! If your a local business owner supporting it, let us know so we can do business elsewhere! If you want something thats really going to work, make the out-of-staters use their states creel limits. Then, as far as crappie go, we'll only be competing with Oklahoma. Wouldn't it be great to watch the Nebraskans have to cut it short!!

Anonymous said...

One possible benefit of the loads of crappie being caught and taken home in recent weeks is that the walleye will become more of a regular occurrence because of less competition for food. Those eastern OK lakes for crappie are tough to beat. I'm afraid we play second fiddle to them when it's about crappie. As for the Nebraskaneers- I guess even McConaughy gets old after awhile. If they pay here, they can play here. That's fair.

Anonymous said...

Just wandering if the ice thickened back up after last weeks warm weather

Anonymous said...

I went out and iced fished bennington (ottawa state fishing lake) and caught blue gill fishing the dam near the first buoy. No crappies wonder where they are?

Jesse said...

what did you catch your gills on? i have been trying to find someone who carries wax worms but no luck!

Anonymous said...

petCo in salina has waxworms

Anonymous said...

Hearing many reports of fisherman taking way over there limit of stripers out of Wilson threw the ice.

Anonymous said...

Went to Antelope lake yesterday with the thought of just getting out. Ended up with 2 nice channels caught on shad sides. When this weatyher warms back up I'll be back!

Anonymous said...

Drive a little bit south to the Red River and you can catch some of these monster fish!

Anonymous said...

They're here!! Full moon and the walleyes are on the banks. Just getting started at Wilson and Kanopolis, time to see if the zebra mussels come into play like other lakes. But they're up and splashing and that's good for now. We truly are blessed here in Kansas, Thanks All.

Anonymous said...

Let's not fish the walleye spawn! Take a tip from the states w/a walleye season and look at their walleye population. Let those big females do their thing1

Anonymous said...

Oh really? If you really are concerned about saving the big walleye then just shut down walleye fishing in May and June. Those big walleyes caught then WON'T MAKE IT TO THE NEXT SPAWN. Far more females are taken out of fisheries then compared to the spawn.

Anonymous said...

Irespect the biologists decision for allowing you to harvest these fish at this time,however,there are many avid walleye anglers in boats that do selective harvest and release many fish over that 20"mark.Even if 2% fry survive from the egg deposits of a 6lb.female,you have just destroyed hundreds of fish for the future by cutting her up for a fillet.Iwish you good luck,please consider the future.

Anonymous said...

Valid point on spawning mortality. I'm sure the % taken during the spawn is small but why not try a couple years of closing the dam off to see where a population might go. Seems to work pretty well for our northern states.

Anonymous said...

This debate has gone on for years and years with fishermen in Nebraska and Kansas on fishing the walleye spawn. One biologist stated in the past that if you really want to save female walleyes for the spawn then just get walleye fishing on Memorial Day Weekend outlawed. We know that isn't going to happen. It has been stated that far more females are caught at this time than the spawn in most years. Biologists have also stated that good spawns are more dependent on climatic conditions. The Nebraska Fish and Game Forum has some very interesting studies on this by a fisheries biologist named Darrel Bauer.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering if flatheads eat a lot of the walleye in a lake such as Glen Elder. Why? A biologist once told me years ago that there is an excellent population of thirty to fifty pound flatheads in Glen Elder. I read that in one of the Cabelas aquariums flatheads were eating walleye up to six pounds, so they stopped putting the walleye in that aquarium. I also read years back of a stomach analysis of flatheads in an easter Kansas reservoir done one fall where many of these fish in the twenty pound range or larger had one and two pound walleyes in them. I'm no biologist, but Glen Elder isn't what it used to be according to a lot of fishermen seeking walleye. Maybe my hunch is way off, but only God knows.

Anonymous said...

Well, I was a bachelor man for quite awhile. I had three mounted fish on my living room walls after we got back from the honeymoon. One was an eight pound walleye from Glen Elder. Another was a big wiper from Norton. And the other one was a largemouth bass from Sheridan Lake. I got married to a good-hearted, beautiful woman. We get along quite well, but... the wiper and bass went to the spare room walls quickly. I thought, "OK, fine. You like to decorate." The walleye recently went to the spare room wall, too. She started teaching piano lessons and the little boys stared at that big walleye too much on the wall instead of their piano music! I throw back most of my fish now and do a lot of selective harvest.

Anonymous said...

Oh ya, Nebraska has it figured out.Is this why I can't get a parking stall at Glen Elder because of all the Neb traffic?

Anonymous said...

Guys if you kill your chickens while they sit on the nest,there aren't many chickens to carry on. Kill that chicken after she brings a few chicks into the world and you still have chickens. Cutting up big walleye disgusts me right along with the harvest of these fish during the spawn!

Anonymous said...

I have landed and cleaned around twenty-five large walleyes up to eight pounds. Maybe a fifth of them have been prespawners. I have studied the debate of fishing the spawn or not. The studies state that the best spawns and survival rates pertaining to walleye come when low to moderate numbers of large females are present in the system. When larger numbers of females get off a spawn it doesn't necessary increase the population. Cannibalism increases in the walleye population along with other factors. If I'm going to form a opinion it will more likely be from biologists than elsewhere! If I keep an eighteen inch walleye I know that I may have kept someone from catching a six pound walleye several years later. Same with other fishermen. Let the biologists make decisions about these things. None of them I have ever talked to promoted closing off the dams for this reason. Enjoy your fishing and obey the laws of the land.

Anonymous said...

Just a bystander here guys, don't know if anyone has the correct answer. Could one of our biologists clear the air here and say why the quote"walleye lakes" up north have walleye seasons and their reasoning for doing so. Thanks and happy fishing!

Anonymous said...

Hello fishermen. THinking bout boat engnines. Is like a ten horse 2stroke more powerfull then a 4 stroke 10 horse. I wiegh 185 and the wife weighs 190 fully dressed. Im glad this is anomyous or I could end up on with a mad woman. THe 2 horse gets us up on plane but would a 15 horse 4 stroke be about the same. They cost alot more. Also will 2stroke be outlawed?

Anonymous said...

Hi fisherman. I know that a lot of people feel that a 9.9 or 10 horse two stroke is a little more powerful than a four stroke of the same size. I think when you said that the two horse gets you and your wife up on plane, you really meant the 10 horse two stroke. Some people feel that a 10 horse two stroke is pretty much as powerful as the newer 15 horse 4 stroke engines. I doubt that a 15 horse 2 stroke is much more powerful than a 10 horse 2 stroke. Maybe somebody else feels differently. There is a large selection of used outboards out there for sale on the internet. Most people feel that 2 strokes will be in Kansas for a long time.

Anonymous said...

I have a question for experienced fishermen who've used both gas outboards and electric trolling motors. Do you feel trolling oh say fifteen feet deep or less with an electric trolling motor spooks fish like walleye in comparison to a small gas outboard engine when using crankbaits. Can anybody out there tell or notice if it really makes any difference?

OUTDOORJON

Anonymous said...

WENT TO WEBSTER 4-16 4-18. CAUGHT A 28INCH AND 25IN WIPER. BIG ONE WAS OVER TEN PDS. CAUGHT OVER 40 WHITE BASS. ALL WERE PRE SPAWN. NO WALLEYE. NO BATHROOMS OR SHOWERS NO WATER...CAUGHT FISH TROLLING HOT &TOTS REEFRUNNERS,AND OTHER CRANK BAITS IN TEN TO TWENTY FT WATER. MOST WERE IN FRONT OF BLUFFS ON SOUTH SIDE IN FRONT OF AQUA COLORED HOUSE. GOOD LUCK KEEPING YOUR TACKLE OUT OF THE SO CALLED UNMARKED FISH ATTRACTORS.

Anonymous said...

This is what i want to hear i'm planning on heading up there on Friday. A buddy of mine caught a bunch of whites over at cedar bluff trolling the dam

Anonymous said...

Flatheasds eating 6 pound walleyes? Bartender give what he's having because it must be good. Also the unmarked fish attractors the gent was complaining about are flooded trees. Deal with it...

Anonymous said...

Well,Glen Elder has now become the Kirwin of the 90's.Living in Beloit and guess I'll drive to Kirwin to avoid parking lots full of Nebs and Rockies!Has fishing been banned in Huskerland?

Anonymous said...

Couldn't agree with you more went to put my boat in the water and the parking lot was full of trails and 90% of them were from Nebraska and seen alot of dill weeds on the water too people catching white bass and instead of just releasing them they thought they had to throw them 20 feet in the air or slam them off the bow of there boat it made me sick dont know how long the good fishing will last with stuff like this going on i have no problem with out of staters just wish people would have a little respect

Dennis R. said...

Has anybody done any night fishing for white bass at either Lovewell or Glen Elder and had any success. Tried Lovewell last weekend and did nothing caught 1 W/B all night was hoping someone could share a hotspot or two for the whites.

Bird-dog said...

Fished Wilson Sunday 8/7/11. Caught 2 stripers. Downrigging at 35 feet, in 49 foot of water. 4" chartrues sassy shad. 26 1/2 inch and a 25 inch.

Anonymous said...

Quick trip to Cedar Bluff to make sure everything was back in order. Had a great trip. Limit of wipers 6lb avg, 9 walleye, dozen crappie, and a few whites. Good fishing for end of August in 100+ temps. All were caught in 20-25fow on 1/2oz tgwally blades. Silver best with Natural shad pulling a close second