Tuesday, March 22, 2011

Region 4 Fishing Reports (Southcentral KS) 2011

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72 comments:

Anonymous said...

went fishing yesterday at cheney. had alot of luck at the dam.
caught three walleye well over 21 and a wiper over 21. it caught the walleyes on worm and the wiper on shrimp. i was about to go home around 7. until i saw a bunch of walleyes near the shore hooked about three but lost all of them. =(

does anyone know any good lures that will make them stay on

Anonymous said...

Use Berkley Fireline. It's a fishing line that has no stretching like mono does. Use the smoke colored 10# test- 4# diameter. A 4 to 6 " length minnowbait that doesn't attach itself to rocks when reeled in is preferred.

Anonymous said...

Use a lot of rapalas when fishing for walleye during spawn

Jonathan said...

looking to catch some redhorses, grass carp and stugeon in the Wichita area can i get a location? to save time thank you. Jessica can you please answer? thank you

Anonymous said...

Red horses- find a bridge over a creek with a drainage pond on one side. Check the first couple of bends downstream after the bridge area. Release the 1 footers. They are the breeders. That way you'll have bait or whatever for future years.
Grass carp- what may work for bait is a complete dandelion root system with no greens attached.
Sturgeon- a river with a sandy and rocky area with moderate to faster current using cutbait or a crayfish presented on the bottom will get them. Find a place where the 3/4 to 1 pound drum will hit and try there.

deeg said...

My son and I caught a 16, 17, and 20 inch walleye off the Cheney dam yesterday evening. Both of hooked a couple more that we didn't get in before they spit the hook. Needed my net (shoot). Will have it with us this evening. The two that got away were bigger (and that's no fish story), I couldn't continue reeling my fish when it was a couple of feet off the bank, it just fought and fought and then spit the hook.

Anonymous said...

Anyone ever catch walleye off the dam at Harvey County East?

Anonymous said...

Harvey County East

Walleyes probably not but Saugeyes yes. I haven’t fished the dam for them this year but in past years I've used shad raps with good luck especially between May and Aug.

I did pick up one 15” saugeye a couple of weeks ago while fishing for crappie on the NW end of the lake.

Anonymous said...

I read the report on white bass at marion is it really true that the are spawning now? i thinks its a little late. Oh and is the walleye spawning at marion also?

Anonymous said...

You better go check and see about Marion, we will be looking for your report back.

Anonymous said...

You may find white bass in the upper tributaries now providing that there is ample flow and depth. I'd say flow would be more important. On certain sections of feeder creeks and especially feeder rivers you can catch the males on consecutive casts if your presentation looks good. Those will be 12-13" fish but they add up when you keep all of them. If you can get a dozen to 15 of them per day you did alright for early April. Remember you'll need ample water flow/depth. The females will be downstream some but they can be caught and some luck will come into play when you find where they're at. Some days walking a mile or more is the ticket for good white bass fishing and wearing boots or waders doesn't make it any easier and just because you fished a spot at 10:00 a.m. and caught nothing doesn't mean you can't come back at noon and have some excellent white bass action at the same spot.

David said...

I'm new to Wichita and am researching the surrounding lakes and reservoirs. Mostly a LM Bass fisherman. Don't see much on Cheney concerning LMB. Is it not a good lake for bass? Any recommendations for lakes near Wichita or Sedgwick county on bass would be greatly appreciated.

Anonymous said...

David umm cheney is fair on LMB my cousin last year caught a few medium sized fish near rocky points and drop offs.

lefty67 said...

There are some bass in Cheney, but IMO, nothing to write home about (one of the few species around here that you can say that about with Cheney). For my money, I'd make the extra half hour or so drive over to Kingman. There are some really nice bass in there, & you won't have near the water to cover to find them. If you're lucky you might have a pike or 2 stretch your line as well.

Anonymous said...

whtie bass are hitting in marion reservoir. caught 10 of them and filled up half of my bucket.

Anonymous said...

Harvey County East Lack Crappie's are starting their spawning activates - or at least the males are taking their position. Picked up one short of a dozen Saturday afternoon which were all males and showing spawning colors (4 Black and 7 white). Black crappies were 10” and the whites 10”-12”. All caught in shallow water in the brush/log/tree structure from the bank. Water clarity is less then a foot so you don’t need to be deep in most cases. Fished again Sunday evening before sundown and caught ~16. Size was a little smaller 9”-10” and mostly black crappies. A couple small females in the mix. Also found a couple large mouth bass in the same structure.

Dominic said...

David: I fish largemouth and I would not venture to Cheney. It's just such a large reservoir and will take time to learn. It's more for the wipers, stripers, walleye, and crappie, and cats. If you just want largemouth then go to Butler co state fishing lake or kingman as another posted. Another place that is even closer that I have pulled some nice bass from is harvey co east. All county lakes are for fishing only so sport boating is not allowed. Harvey co east will get the sport boaters so fishing off the dam or by the dam isn't as great. Butler has an excellent rating for bass and kingman has less bass, but I can pull some nice bass from there. It's a vegetation lake so soon the lily pads will take it over, but I have caught bass right from shore casting into the lily pads.
Another lake I will venture to again this year is down south to cowley co state fishing lake. It's is rated well for many bass, but not big bass.
If you don't want to make the trip out of town then go to KDOT West. I have caught a few decent bass from there. Chisolm creek north I caught two bass from there when I fished there once. Buffalo park is a heavily vegetated little pond, but I've caught a few from there. Finally Emery park, which is still relatively new.... not within the year new, but within ten years or less, but it holds bass as well.
I tend to travel outside the city when I go fish. I just enjoy spending time outdoors then being right in the city to fish.

Brian said...

Thanks for the info on the city lakes. Sometimes I do not have the time to get out of Wichita. I went to Watson Saturday morning and was throwing a beetle spin hoping to land some crappie. All I wound up catching was smaller bass, better than getting skunked though. I read a lot of good things about Kingman, is it shore-fishing friendly?

lefty67 said...

I've always done ok from shore at Kingman. Most of the cover is near the shore, & there are several rock jetties there that allow you to walk out past the cover & throw back into it, not to mention that there are fish on the jetties themselves waiting for a minnow to drop in front of them.

deeg said...

Yes, Kingman is shore friendly. The jetties do allow for fishing at the cover from beyond. The west end of the lake is more vegetated and is not so shore friendly other than an extended jetty on the east edge. The main body of the lake is shore friendly along the east edge and around the south to the extended jetty on the west edge. I have never seen anyone fishing from the north end, appears to be private property and only accessible by a boat.

Andy said...

Got out to Butler SFL today with a friend. Took the kayaks out and had a pretty good day... Except for the wind. Together we pulled a bakers dozen out, with the average length about 15-16". There were a few dinks in there. We was using Buzzbaits of all things. And I think he was using a Zoom Horny Toad as well some. But we caught the majority on Buzzs.

I thought it would be too early in the season for topwater. Guess not.

Anonymous said...

Hit Harvey County East lake Thursday evening. Found a few black male crappies shallow before the temperature dropped. Also managed to land a personal best 20” Largemouth Bass. Great fun on 6lb line and 12’ crappie rod. Early in the week landed a 18+” Largemouth Bass out of the same type cover (had two brake offs of similiar size fish).

Anonymous said...

went fishing at Kdot west(couple days ago) and caught numerous largemouth bass All under sizes. but it was fun. i tried a variety of bait and nothing seem to work except my blue fox glow in the dark red spinner. when i fish spinners just reeling it in doesn't work until i give it twitches. after a couple of years fishing. when you twitch the bait it gives a fish enough time for the it to grab the bait. and plus it looks like a bloody red fish.=P

Dominic said...

RE: Kingman. I've fished kingman many times by boat and shore. The whole lake gets vegetated. The lily pads take up lots of areas and the rest is underwater milfoil type of plants. One reason Kingman can always be successful. So much vegetation that water can stay cool.
Most of my success has been entering at the river access area and driving until you have the area with the stairs that puts you at the rock pier. To the left of the pier you have heavy vegetation in the whole area, but because of this it's nice and clear when the rest of the lake can get muddy on windy days. I've caught every species in the west area of the lake.
As far as the north shore someone mentioned it's a lot of walking to get there and it's rather shallow so most boats can't get there. But the North East side of the lake is a spring and the pike tend to hang out in there. The west part of the northern area of the lake has some reeds and pike can linger in there.
If you go in the main entrance you have three rock piers to fish from. And the shoreline to each pier is loaded with rocks, but I've never caught much fishing them. I guess I like the vegetation too much. You can see the downed cedar trees as well in this area and the crappie are in there, but can be a challenge from shore. I had to jig down about six feet right in the tree to get my crappie.

Anonymous said...

Augusta city lake has been producing a lot of crappie. small tubes or jigs from the shore slowley retrieved 1-2 feet under a bobber have been very succselful. try the east sides of the lake thats were most have been caught. i have been personnaly catching crappie from 6 ounces to well over a pound. this lake does require a town fishing permit but you could limit out in less than an hour.

Andy said...

When I went to Kingman a couple weekends ago the Milfoil was there, but no pads. I got up on the north end of the lake where the sticks are, and there was some bass making some racket up there.

It was too windy at that time and too many people fishing. Maybe I'll try back in a couple weeks after I hit Wilson again before the Smallmouth spawn.

Anonymous said...

Does Anyone know a good spot for wipers at marion?(land fishing)

Clay said...

Craig- I had a friend tell me the other day that it was against the law to use barbless bullheads for bait when flathead fishing or setting lines. Is that true??? Can you not cut the fins off of them. I never have before I just thought that was pretty odd answer.

Anonymous said...

thinking about trying some flukes what is the best color to use for kansas bass?

Anonymous said...

Buy a combo color c-lector. It will enable you to choose the best color scheme for the fishing situation presented based on readings picked up by a sensor that you lower into the water. Seems to work best for largemouth.

Anonymous said...

fished at kdot west bass are biting like crazy i was catching them left and right with my blue fox vibrax spinner.

Anonymous said...

I fished at cheney today and caught 23 1/2in Walleye along with another person catching a 24 1/2in walleye also. Key to catching it is finding some white perch to use for bait

Craig Johnson, KDWP El Dorado District Fisheries Biologist said...

In reply to:

Clay said...

Craig- I had a friend tell me the other day that it was against the law to use barbless bullheads for bait when flathead fishing or setting lines. Is that true??? Can you not cut the fins off of them. I never have before I just thought that was pretty odd answer.

4/26/2011 2:08 PM


Clay,

A new law was put in to effect last year. It reads:

115-7-10. Fishing; special provisions. (a) A person who takes any fish from a body of water shall not tag, mark, brand, clip any fin of, mutilate, or otherwise disfigure any fish in a manner that would prevent species identification, examination of fins, recovery of tags, or determination of sex, age, or length of the fish before releasing the fish back into the body of water, unless a permit authorizing this activity has been issued by the department.

This law would not apply to the situation you inquired about as you are not RELEASING the bullhead but instead attaching it to a hook and line and using it for bait. However, if you were to catch the bullhead (or any other fish) and cut off the spines or any other fin and then RELEASE the fish back in to the water then you would be in violation.

Clay said...

I remember the article about the guy who was cutting the tails on walleye up at marion now that you said that. I understand the law and thank you for your response. I have no purpose to cut the fins off of anything I was just trying to prove a point. Good fishing to all!!!!

Anonymous said...

wife and I fished council grove on sat. didn't catch much, a couple of wjhites and a drum. Water was very muddy. Wish they would list that on the report.

Anonymous said...

Thinking about going fishing at harvey county east, anyone have a tip on good locations around the lake for bass/crappie?

Anonymous said...

Are the feeders at Cheney functional yet? I've been waiting patiently.

Anonymous said...

Watson slow on Catfish... a variety of baits being used both shallow & deep with average sizes from 12" to 18".
Meanwhile Crappies & Largemouth are picking up but still somewhat slow most anglers are using ultralight jigs and slip bobber rigs from shore tipped with either minnows, night crawlers or powerbait. Bass are running up to 2.5lbs and crappies up to 14 inches with a majority under 8 inches in length.

Bluegill are spotty but plentiful if found biting on segments of night crawlers, and corn. nothing bigger than 3/4 pound in size has been caught this week.

Wipers and Saugeye have been extremely slow.

daniel said...

Ok, i was reading on this page that meade hatchery is one of the best in the whole state, they send all kinds of species of fish all over the state. But what about their own lake??? on this hatchery they have channel catfish, hybrid sunfish, largemouth bass, smallmouth bass, walleye and grass carp but they dont stock lake meade but with catfish, we will like to have some action too, im serious if someone catches a largemouth bass feels like they won the kansas lottery, for real is that bad i mean check their fishing report, i think the best i have read on it is fair, we never have good on almost anything. I think that this lake deserve it, its always people trying to fish there, and i say trying because they never catch anything or something small. I was talking to one of the guys that works there and he said they havent stock with largemouth bass there for YEARS that got me desapointed bad i mean what do we need to do in order to get some fish on this lake???? If you want us to buy it, i know there is plenty of people that will, including me. I dont think that if you stock at least one LMB per acre at least twice a year (and im not asking for big fish, even just fingerling size) this lake will be great just like it used to be many years ago, plus i dont think it whould hurt your hatchery at all, so please people from the KDWP think and talk about it i mean that will bring more money to this park wich is really pretty, all we need and ask for is just FISH. What the rest of the people think about what i just said???? and the arkalon park i just dont even want to think about it every year looks worst, looks more like drainage water well to make it easier for you the seward county landfill looks way better then arkalon park and im not making fun of it this is serious i think the KDWP needs to put more attention on lake meade and arkalon park too no just on the bigger lakes please people make comments about it so we can get a good solution for this big problems.

Anonymous said...

Saw some nice walleyes at the weigh-in Sun at Marion, not a lot, but some good'uns.

Jonathan said...

Been catchin Monster Catfish at the Lincon bridge i mean monsters 4 cats over 20 pounds and 2 flatheads over 30 WOW. just caught a 40 pond drum on a 6 inch orangespotted sunfish WOW

Jessica Mounts said...

RE: Fishing at the Lincoln Street Dam.

A major construction project is underway at Lincoln Street, and to my knowledge, the Lincoln Street Bridge is closed to all activity. Be careful when fishing there, as much of the area is fenced off for the construction project. For updates on the project and to confirm contact the City of Wichita Parks and Recreation at (316) 268-4361.

Anonymous said...

Best catfishing I have ever seen this year. Must have cleaned over 200 fish since memorial day

jonathan said...

i ment the area

Clay said...

The catfish are Hungry we need rain!!! It is like catching fish in a barrel wherever you go. I went out on a stretch on the Whitewater river 2 days ago and it was unbelievable. I caught 28 fish in 1hr and a half with some dip bait and worms. These were 5-10 pound fish and I even had my line broke twice who knows what that was though. Stand the heat your going to catch some fish. Just fishing below riffels and small holes at bends. Even caught 2 saugeye throwing a jig. Thanks Harvey County lake. 2 miles south of Towanda

Anonymous said...

Harvey County East Lake

Less then one foot of visibility (typical for the lake).

Sat July 2nd – fished the rock dam face early using small jigs (1/32 oz). Ended up catching some bluegills (nothing larger then 7”), several catfish (12” to 16”), one black crappie and one nice 20” saugeye.

Sun July 3nd – Almost the same as Sat. Fished the rock dam face again early using small jigs (1/32 oz). Ended up catching bluegills (nothing larger then 7”), couple catfish (12” to 14”), one black crappie and one 23” saugeye.

Kevin B. Koonce said...

I would like to send you some pictures of litter I took this morning at Cheney State Park. I need an e-mail address rather than this form, though.

Anonymous said...

I caught something at the Clearwater pond that I can't really identify- not sure if it's a spotted bass or a largemouth. It looks like a largemouth, but the coloration is totally wrong (almost looks like a walleye or pike). I've been keeping it in an aquarium until I can identify it (it's healthy and happy)- if it's a spotted bass, I'll probably give it to the GPNC for their native collection.

Jessica Mounts said...

RE: Clearwater Pond Catch

If you wouldn't mind, please give me a call tomorrow (Friday) at my office at the GPNC (316) 683-8069 and ask for Jessica. I'd be happy to identify your catch.

Jessica

Anonymous said...

Is it a warmouth or a rock bass? Check out Warmouth wiki pages for pictures and info. Are the eyes red?

Anonymous said...

re: the coloration thing- Back about 20 years or so ago, I went down to Fisherman's Cove w/ a buddy of mine, & the carp were spawning like crazy there. We hadn't caught a thing all day, so he threw his roadrunner in just to see if they'd hit, & one (about 6-8 lbs) actually did. I thought what the heck, & did the same, & to my surprise pulled out a 3 lb. largemouth on my 2nd cast, & it was every bit, if not moreso yellow than the carp that were surfacing.

Anonymous said...

Cheney Lake:

Blue-Algae going on so no ones at the lake. Since rain, water visibility is cut in half but the fish are biting strong. We had a two man limit on walleye in an hour. They started hitting around 11 AM way out off the bluffs in about 23 ft of water suspended at 15 or so feet. Wiper fishing has been excellent but this is the first good walleye day of the year for us so I thought I'd report it. Using Jointed Wraps that run about 12-15. Go out on the weekdays and your the only boat in the lake; like paradise. Have fun.

Dominic said...

Re: Kevin. I've been making it a habit myself to pick up trash after my fishing trips. Plastics that I can just toss in my recycle bin at home. I won't pick up everything. Not going to drive 45 min back home with some old stink bait container growing alien life in it. If I can recycle it I pick it up. And I will pick up fishing line. That just tangles in everything! And it takes 600yrs to vanish.
Unfortunately there is no staffing to do much in the lines of trash cleanup. Just not enough funding. Best bet is to organize cleanups. Or better yet find the lazy people that litter and shake some sense into them! Really people... taking your trash with you is very easy.

Anonymous said...

Caught some nice white crappie at the Clearwater fishing pond, the biggest was a touch under 3 lbs! I didn't think they were supposed to be in there, but there are a bunch of them to be caught.

BTW I determined that the mystery bass (mentioned back in July) was indeed a spotted bass.

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Clay said...

Wow this blog is pretty quiet considering what the upcoming changes to fishing regs are going into effect on the 1st of Jan...All fish must be dead before you leave a lake that is designated an aquatic nuisance body of water.That means all your crappie walleye catfish or whatever you decide to keep must be dead before you head home. Also they did pass the law that you are not allowed to catch your perch or bullheads from your favorite little cow pond or stream and use them wherever you decide to fish. I think they are calling us fisherman stupid for not knowing what kinds of fish we are catching. I would like some opinions on this

Anonymous said...

WOW. They added another 1.3 million wiper fry and 40,000 wiper fingerlings to El Dorado. Between the wipers, blue cat and white perch they are ruining El Dorado for walleye and crappie. HMMM,, kinda like they ruined Cheney by stalking white perch that they thought were wipers.

Craig Johnson, KDWP El Dorado District Fisheries Biologist said...

In reply to:

Anonymous said...

WOW. They added another 1.3 million wiper fry and 40,000 wiper fingerlings to El Dorado. Between the wipers, blue cat and white perch they are ruining El Dorado for walleye and crappie. HMMM,, kinda like they ruined Cheney by stalking white perch that they thought were wipers.
9/30/2011 6:55 AM

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A total of 80,000 wiper fingerlings and 1.2 million wiper fry were stocked in to El Dorado Reservoir in 2011.

In addition to the wiper, walleye were also stocked in to El Dorado. A total of 200,000 walleye fingerlings and 2.5 million walleye fry were stocked during 2011.

Walleye and wiper were the only two species stocked in 2010 and 2011. The last blue catfish stocking occurred in 2009.

For a quick overview of El Dorado for 2011 check out the KDWPT video 'El Dorado Reservoir Forecast' at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgFb-B_3jRQ . This video was filmed early in 2011 and should give you an idea of what is going on with the lake and factors affecting the fish populations.

Thank you for your interest in the fishery at El Dorado Reservoir!

Clay said...

Craig keep up the good work at ElDorado I know your job is criticized by some but what can you do? Time will tell on how you are managing the lake. I have faith Bring on the big Walleye!!! If it wasn't for ignorant stupid people wether it be KDWP or inconsiderate fisherman who do not obey laws your job is hard. Its all politcal anymore. If people think the lake is ruined STAY AWAY! Better fishing for me

Anonymous said...

In all fairness, the bio's are just techies. They do the labor involved in sampling and other qualities, compile the data, and present it to mgmt. They can/do have suggestions and valuable input. But, it all falls on most, if not all of their superiors responses. Don't shoot the messenger, or blame the bio's, they didn't cause the effects that their job is to report and control. Be Thankful really, it wasn't to long ago that other states courted them and replacement and experience are not easily replaced.

Anonymous said...

are the trout stocking at sedgwick county park on schedule?

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Anonymous said...

I noticed they have 3 different species of salmon and they have alot more trout stockings than we do. Seems to be more northern pike opportunities too.

Anonymous said...

Here's a bone to chew on. Marion is on fire crappies, whites/wipers are all good, but there are limits of big walleyes being taken there right now, some up to 10#. Marion to Cottonwood Pts on the breaks. W/W on one side and walleyes on the other or inside or outside of them.

Anonymous said...

went fishing this morning at cheney and caught 6 walleyes on crankbaits. The biggest one weighed 6.8 pounds.

Anonymous said...

Where did you catch the walleyes at Cheney? On the dam or around the lake?

Anonymous said...

El Dorado-Crappie are really biting on baked potatoes in brush piles at about 10-15 feet. They're slowly moving up. Pretty good amount of keepers in the bunch.

Anonymous said...

Really on Baked Potatoes ? never heard that, last week caught a few off party cove about 20 ft one 15 in 2 smaller still slow

Anonymous said...

If they are not going to let us take our fish home in our livewells from El Dorado, they need to put cleaning stations at the docks. I want my fish fresh when fileted, not on ice. There used to be a station on the old dock at Sailboat Cove, but the new dock does not have one. The only station I know of is on the dock at the west end of the damn,,, which noone uses.

Anonymous said...

Going to Marion this weekend..... Any tips on how to hook up on the hybrids there

Anonymous said...

I live a stones throw away from the Walnut River and I'm telling ya, the fishing is the best i've seen in a decade. Perhaps all the rain we've been getting but it's seriously exhausting reeling them al in. I've caught everything from White Bass, Drum, Blue Cat and Flats so far. I have a pretty unique way I fish that will stay my secret (not illegal) but if you should find yourself nearby the Walnut and have written permission to fish by the landowner, I would suggest getting a line wet! Just this evening i relled in a 46 lb Flat. Broke the last 8 inches of my pole. Good luck this years folks! Keep the waters clean and respect the game!

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