Wednesday, April 10, 2013

Region 3 Fishing Reports (Southwestern KS) 2013


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115 comments:

Anonymous said...

Any news on the ramp being built at clark

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure on Clark. But if any of you guys are interested, i know a guy in Liberal who is opening a bait shop at 708 S. Kansas. I've had the pleasure of trying out some of what he's going to sell and its pretty nice. If you are having trouble with low water levels, he will have you covered as well! he will be carrying small 1-4 man boats perfect for deailing with whats going on at Clark and elsewhere, they do not need to be registered either. Most will also fit in the back of a small SUV when packed correctly.

Anonymous said...

Went to clark the other day. they did dirt work for new ramp but looks like they gave up on pouring any concrete.

terri said...

Any sign of a crappie spawn at Clark yet? We have gone every week for the past few weeks and limited out on LMB, caught quite a few under the 15 inch limit and turned them back of course. The bass we fileted were very fat and healthy. I'd rate the bass fishing good to excellent. Didn't catch any crappie, which is what we prefer. Incidentally caught a cat fish or 2 each time, really wasn't trying. We used minnows, about 20 inches under bobber. Walked in to the cove on the west side from the west boat ramp. quite a trek in but worth it!

Anonymous said...

it's sad to see Clark like this but i must admit, it makes it way easier to fish. Normally when at or just below capacity you absolutely NEED a boat over there lol.

Terri said...

We put boards across the beaver ditch to make it a little easier to get across, hope no one has used the for firewood...My son is developmentally disabled and has trouble getting around the beaver dam to be able to hike around to the cove. Are the boards still there?

Anonymous said...

does anybody know how the fishing as been at horsethief?

Anonymous said...

anybody have any luck with crappie fishing

Anonymous said...

Crappie are going good again after the last cold chills we had at Clark and Meade. The Walleye are still biting at Clark as well, dont be afraid to walk around the lake, do it now or you might not get the chance again for a decade after it re-fills. I also did a boat load of fishing-no pun intended-at Arkalon this last weekend and cleaned up fairly well on Catfish and pretty sizeable Carp, the bait guy in Liberal has the stuff for Carp as well as Crappie and Bluegill. I used a sample he gave me of his grub worms at Meade and did pretty well, when did this place open? Does anyone know about the little boats he carries? he didnt have one on the floor when i stopped by and was cautious on dropping that much cash without anything to look at.


Oh yea and theres rain forecasted all week long so fishing should be great.

terri said...

Does the new bait shop in liberal carry Minnows? Does he currently have any?
We went to clark yesterday, fished everywhere and did not catch any Crappie. Guess they are still deep after the cold front last weekend.....boooo! on the winter storms that won't go away.
With Clark being so low and so narrow, shouldn't it be a no wake? We had a boater motoring up and down the lake constantly at high speed, making it difficult to keep bobbers where we wanted them and washing the minnow bucket to shore. Kinda frustrating!

T said...

Fished Clark county yesterday, it was a beautiful day...but as if someone flipped on "off" switch on the crappie. Only caught a couple under limit length LMB, a couple white bass. Water temp seems to be coming up, still really cold but not icy cold. Came home with nothing but a sunburn and a few welts from the flies biting....PS If corona beer bottles were refundable in Kansas, I could have my summer fishing trips all paid for. Please pick up your trash...

Anonymous said...

anything done on new ramp. any way to get a boat on at clark

Joe Ohler said...

Fished Barber on Tuesday, May 14. Walleye were hard to find but when we did we caught them fairly easy. Eyes are just now moving onto the flats. Found them in 5-6 feet of water on the breaks into deep water. Some suspended others on bottom. Caught fish on jigs and gulp and casting cranks. Crappie were suspended in at 5-6 feet in deep water at the mouths of the coves. Pulling small cranks in open water put several crappie in the boat. Most 10 inchers but we had several 12 inch fish for the well. Bass were going crazy in the coves. Spinnerbaits were killing them. And yes you can launch your boat. Put my 19 deep v on with no issues.

Anonymous said...

their really needs to be a bigger Ranger presence on/around Clark, and tickets need to be wrote to people who leave trash and beer bottles and shotgun shells, their also needs to be some work done over there. The nature trail still needs re-cut, the roads need to be graded (especially behind the dam!) and the Rangers need to start cracking down on all the idiots that invade this place and start bonfires, poor 2 gallons of water on it and think its out.

Anonymous said...

Something does need to be done. The place is getting very thrashy. They been telling everyone that they will have a ramp built along time ago. They can't seems to get that done so don't hold your breath on getting anything else done. Its just stupid that people wont take care of such a nice little lake.

Anonymous said...

Ive never fished Clark, just moved to dodge a while back. Took a trip down to ashland and decided to stop at clark on the way back and explore a little. is there only one place to launch a boat or is there a way to get to the west side? thanks for the help!

Don said...

Hey guys, i am so sorry its taken me this long to get on here. The shop is completely up and running at 708 S. Kansas in Liberal, minnows will be coming (not quite exact on this yet) June 14-20th, possibly sooner. Crayfish also coming around that time as well (you can even eat these!). Right now i have a wide selection of Grubs, panfish worms(wrigglers), and just in today European Nightcrawlers (same length and fatness of canadians but require no refrigeration and are much livelier and last longer on the hook.) I've also got One inflatable boat but i dont have a means to get it down to the shop in my little wind-up car, I sold my display one last weekend but these boats range in price depedning on what your wanting. I have an entire catalog of them with all kinds of bells and whistles you can get.

ok, enough about teh shop, i did actually do a boat load of fishing during the week and came out pretty decent. Meade lake was going nuts with Crappie all week on my grubs, Bass were biting off a mini spinner/fake crawdad combo, Catfish werent doing much.

Liberal Arkalon area: I honestly do not have words that can describe this travesty outside of Liberal. Ever since the state has taken control of those ponds the fishing has been absolute CRAP and i am getting tired of it. For the last 3 years runnign the only things that has been stocked is fingerling Catfish. I remember going out there as little as 5-6 years ago and catching Black Bass and Bluegill/Perch untill my arm fell off. It was fun. But now, I mean Catfish are ok, but i honestly get tired of dealing with those friken things. If i had a dollar for every fin-stick i'd be a millionare. The turtle population has also grown to be a concern. Every year the snapper populaion grows and grows out there and im certain they are affecting the fishing as well, the 2 lower ponds are impossible to fish, i counted 22-50 turtles last year in each pond, and some of these boys werent small. I have started a petition in my shop for people to come and sign to help improve the fishing out there. Maybe we can even get this place open in the winter with Trout or something. ANYTHING would be an improvement over Catfish and Carp.

Anonymous said...

Clark got a flash flood with the storms last night. Not much of a noticeable difference in lake levels though but it may stir up the fish a bit.

Anonymous said...

Where can you get minnows in dodge minneola region? Any bait shops?

Anonymous said...

At kingsdown The depot house bait shop

Thomas L. said...

Don, first off nice shop. Second, i completely and thoroughly agree with you about Arkalon. That place is not what it used to be even 4 years ago. I remember in the not so distant past you could fish for Bass and Bluegill untill your arm fell off and catfish were the "side" species to go after. Now, thats all that is in there besides some munster Carp. I too am royally pissed off at the shape this place has been in for the past 4 years. Does anyone know the "real" story on this place or did the state just get lazy? I mean come on guys, there is a hatchery in Meade, less than a 30 minute drive from Arkalon, its not too much to ask to load up some Bluegill and Bass and drive em over.

Terri said...

Went to Clark yesterday and was disappointed the lake is down a foot or more from one week ago. We caught a few crappie, couple LMB and a couple whites. Used minnows under bobber. Did get to meet Game Warden Taylor, and seen John a couple times in the past month so I think the message is getting heard about needing more presence. There is also work underway on the new ramp, part of the cement has been poured. As far as the old ramp (south east side) there were quite a few boaters putting in and getting out with small bass boats and such. Do wish folks would observe the no wake rule about not causing a wake within so many yards of shore, sure makes it difficult for those of us stuck fishing from shore...washes up the bait bucket and tangles our lines in the rocks and brush. As low as Clark is, it should be a no wake lake for the time being....

Terri said...

What's going on at clark to cause the water level to drop so much? It dropped even more between Friday and Sunday...is water being let out??

Anonymous said...

All the boaters wakes are pushing all the water out. Damn boaters

Anonymous said...

Funny haha! The water level first has to be near the spillway for boats to lap it out! BTW we were boaters too, but follow the rules as far as not causing a wake within so many yards of people fishing, whether they are in a boat or on shore. It's just common courtesy!
Did Clark get any of the rain from last nights storms? anybody know?

Anonymous said...

I've been looking at the radar since last night and it looks like at the very least Clark may have gotten enough to keep it stable. There is more rain expected today as well. As far as the lake levels dropping, believe it or not this is a common occurance on man made lakes. When in my geology/hydrology classes in college i learned that with man made lakes in certain types of soils-like the sandy/shale soil of Clark-the levels will steadily and continually drop if atleast a small flow of water is not provided on a regular basis, Clark has not gotten a legitimate inflow for about 5 years now. Basically, without confusing paople, the soil(and the sun) is eating the lake on a constant basis and it is in dire need of a massive flash flood, after lake levels recharge, this process slows down immensely but can still be seen in the form of bubbles.

terri said...

I hope that flash flood happened last night! I was driving from Meade to Plains, could only see about 20 feet in front of me it was raining so hard, and it was forecasted to go right over Minneola, Kingsdown and Clark County lake, which means bluff creek would receive a lot! I am almost tempted to run out there and take a look!
As for the bubbles, that makes sense! I thought it was clams under the soil in the shallows...I was seeing it frequently when I was there Sunday and wondered why the "clams" were being so "active" or if they were dying lol.
Maybe this rain will stir up the fish if nothing else!

Terri said...

There is an awesome amount of flow coming into clark lake from Bluff creek! So much in fact, the Carp are running! It was funny to watch them stacked up in the rush of the flow trying to get upstream, where they were only half submerged once they were able to defeat the two foot drop and working they're way to the beaver dam (what will they do THEN? lol) I was thrilled to see that amount of water coming in, Hope it continues!
We caught a few bass today, and a whole lot of catfish (we didn't keep them, YUCK!) . My husband caught a couple crappie off the brushpile to the west of the cement pilar off the dam....as soon as he did, a family of 11 or 12 ADULTS converged to the spot he was fishing, nearly sitting on his lap, crossing his line, getting hung up in the brush pile, ker-splashing their minnnow bucket in and out of the water...so much for the crappie fishing LOL

Anonymous said...

What size were the catfish you caught? What did you catch them on?

Terri said...

anywhere from very young ( like newly stocked) to 20 inches or so. We were using minnows. quite a few were in the shallow warm water on the north end, mixed in with the carp that were trying to get upstream, caught the bigger ones on the point going into the cove on the west side that you have to hike into from bloom cove, where you can only get to by boat when the lake is full.

Donald Small said...

Hey guys, went to Clark the other day and Terri ws right. They caught quite a substantial rain fall the other day but the lake levels look like they may be up only about 5-8 inches :( so we definitely need more. Now, with that being said I would like to warn people about the terrain sorrounding this lake. Be very VERY careful hiking along the NE, SE and SW sides of the lake. The cliffs on these sides are notoriously unstable and normally are only accessible by boat so just keep in mind if it has rained any recently, some of those cliff slides may be wanting to slide into the lake. the NE side did this about 12 years ago, you can still see the scar. be careful out there guys!

Anonymous said...

Anyone know how the fishing is up at stone lake great bend,ks?

Anonymous said...

Whoever is doing the rain dance for Clark, KEEP DOING IT!! Ladies and gents as of 6-25-13 at 7:35am Clark is now only 7.5 ft low. Measured from the north end where it is easier to calculate.


Also, clean up your danged beer bottles and bait containers people. The only people who keep this lake clean is other fishermen kind enough to pick it up. Oh and throw away your nasty babies diapers, that stuff is disgusting that close to a body of water.

Terri said...

it must have had some drainage into the lake from the storms over bluff creek last night, We were at the lake trying some night fishing and left at 1:30am and the lake was at that time a couple feet lower then the week prior. We seen the storms to the northwest of the lake, I was hoping for that drain off to go to clark lake! So is the creek running Now? It was barely a trickle when we got there last night. As far as the fishing....the shad were really busy in the shallows, I caught and released one under limit walleye, 1 nice sized flathead (didn't keep it either) a few channel cats, and a 20 inch Bass. left them all there though, we were looking for crappie! We were using minnows under a bobber fishing about 4-5 ft out from the rocks off the new boat ramp. Might have to go check it out again this evening! If the creek is running, that is...

bc said...

Can you launch a boat on clark now? Anyone catching any white bass there?

Anonymous said...

Talked to fish and game last weekend and they said new ramp was done

Terri said...

Yes there are people getting boats on the water, the new ramp is done and it is Steep! At the rate the water level is dropping in this heat, no telling how long you will be able to get a boat on the water though! Clark did not seem to get a drop from those storms that were Northwest of there a few nights ago. It's horrible how low it is! The fishing is still pretty good though, we caught about a dozen crappie, a couple keepable black bass, and several catfish yesterday. Used minnows under a bobber. But Clark SFL needs a deluge!

Anonymous said...

Are you still catching crappie of the rocks around the boat ramp? Went out this morning and only caught a few white bass and small channel. First time I've ever been to clark. Lookin for any help I can get!

terri said...

we've had our best luck getting crappie by fishing the brush piles, if you can find them! A few of our "go to" brush piles have been pulled out of the water. Not that the water level dropped and the brush was beached, which is certainly the case in a number of places, but that someone has apparently snagged the brush and drug it out. My guess would be someone fishing with 20lb test fishing for big cats. It has ruined the crappie fishing! I know there has to be more somewhere but I haven't found them yet...

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know the best way catch bass at Lake Charles in dodge city! And do they stock it with crappie?

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know the best way catch bass at Lake Charles in dodge city! And do they stock it with crappie?

Anonymous said...

did clark receive any rain from the storms yesterday? It is sooo low we could hear the conversations of people fishing on the east side, and we were on the west side! I wish KDWP would make it a no wake lake for the time it is so low....was catching fish in the cove on the west side until a boater was at the entry to the cove doing "donuts".

Becky said...

I am also getting tired of people treating Clark like crap just because it's low. I was out there today and it looks like at the very least the water level has stabalized and there was a flow in the creek. I'm kind of hoping to see a giant flash flood so i can see the new spillway in action, lol that thing is so much overkill but it does look nice i'll give it that!


On a side note with the boaters, well, you just have to pick the times your over there. early to mid week is best as well as early morning before the boaters really get there. I have a boat and even with the new ramp built i see no reason to bring it. It's useless and jsut pisses everyone off so i just prefer to use a good sized inflatable. I got this one as a kit with an electric trolling motor from the bait guy in liberal and its absolutely perfect with the water levels and they also tend to make other boaters slow down once they see you, if they dont i'll troll right on up to them and have a chat, doesn't bother me one single bit.

Anonymous said...

What kind of fish were you catching and what were they biting on? Want to make the two hour trip over to clark on Saturday any advice appreciated.

Anonymous said...

LM Bass, white bass, and Catfish using minnows under a bobber. We've had our best luck where you can find structures (brick, brush, wooden pallet piles)in deeper water on the west side. If the creek was flowing I'm going to say Clark got some of the rain from the storms....the creek was bone dry over the weekend. I hope more comes, a deluge over Bluff creek would be awesome LOL not that I want to see the new spillway work but don't want to see Clark die out...

Terri said...

Clark received a whole lot of water from the past weeks storms! YAY! I am not sure what the Official number is but all the sandy shoreline is underwater except the sandbar on the north end on the west side...the rain gauge at the cattle guard going to Bloom cove had almost an inch in it and I was told Kingsdown received an inch one night and two inches a couple nites before that. If you hike the shoreline like we do, be prepared to hike through tall weeds and grass. We moved the boards we had brought out to cross the beaver ditch (by Bloom Cove), because they were under water, so look for the crossing further up into the cove. Also like the man said, be careful of those bluffs falling into the lake...there is a new scar on the west side, south end, where some more of the bluff fell. The shale and cleachy (I know that's not spelled right lol) is very unstable!
We were there Friday and Saturday, caught zero fish on the face of the dam, white bass on the east side, and under-limit black bass, catfish, white bass on the west side. I was disappointed that a brushpile/christmas tree we had liked to fish that was on the east side had been completely pulled out of the water...it was huge and it would never budge whenever we got hung up on it so I am assuming someone deliberately removed it and are ignorant to the fact that structures are in the water for fish habitat.
There were lots of boats on the water and all were courteous...if you were one of them THANK YOU!

Anonymous said...

The national weather service says the clark received between 4 and 7 cinches of rain. And said it has rose over 9 ft. Anyone seen yet? How will the fishing be this weekend

Terri said...

I wish we could post pictures on here. We might drive out to Clark this afternoon and take a look. It's been our experience that after a flash flood at Clark and Meade lakes the fishing was phenomenal!

Terri said...

Thank you Lowel Aberson for taking pictures! Ya'll can find them on Facebook @ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=642717119086780&set=a.642717009086791.1073741839.205550402803456&type=1&theater
WOW the rock points are under water!

Anonymous said...

Anyone fishing horse thief after the inflow of water? Wanting to take my 8 year old and catch anything he don't care as long as it swims.

Donald Small said...

WOW! I've been working so much that i just heard about Clark today and....just....WOW! My dad always used to tell me about the flood back in 1978 and how it scared the hell out of him when it happened and now i can see why. Good work on the spillway too guys, if it wasnt for that, we would probably be dealing with a very serious problem. I did fish it this morning and the channel cats are going nuts on anything with blood in it, other things not so much. The water temperature dropped quite a good bit with the inflow so there wont be much action untill the temperature and sediment stsabilize. I say give it about a good 2-2.5 weeks (assuming it doesnt flood again) and the fishing will be absolutely awesome.

p.s.:i will be ready for you guys friday at my store. I better see somepeople out fishing. this is a miracle!

Donald Small said...

Oh, almost forgot, here is a video of water flowing over the spillway i found on the NWS Dodge city facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151846740325955&set=vb.659390954&type=2&theater

Terri said...

LOL Donald- Lowells video of the spillway is nearly viral and had already had few hundred shares. I have it on my phone and can't get over it, it is what we had been praying for! We went out to Clark Tuesday and there was no access to the Dam....is there now? No problem accessing the east and North ends and I could see a vehicle parked on Bloom Cove (west shore) but the road was closed to go behind the dam. If anyone plans on launching a boat, better take a rake or pitch fork to move some reeds out of the way on the east shore.

Anonymous said...

wow a full month and no reports? shame on u guys!

Anonymous said...

Lol i blasted u guys out for not reporting and didnt submit mine.

Clark SFL:

Everything is slowly returning to normal, but as you could guess with the high water, your gonna need a boat to catch anything remotely decent. I really wasnt going after anything in particular but i did catch a few good sized white bass on live shad (seined from the lake itself since noone sells them).

I also caught a few large flathead, well over the 12lb report on the website right now. They were more like 20 lb'ers. I caught those using large goldfish from the guy in Liberal. Apparently he is the only one in the entire area with goldfish that big. everywhere else(meade and kingsdown) have just the small ones :(. with the water levels back to normal now, small goldfish just aren't gonna cut it, i spent a full day with those small ones and didnt even catch a channel cat, so definately get the big ones if your going after the big cats!

Anonymous said...

Dude! Overkill on the push for people to buy from your baitshop! "I got them from the guy in liberal" in every post...Jeesh! Lets keep it about the lakes and not your baitshop!
Now for a report on fishing at Clark, we were there yesterday and for the first time ever we were completely skunked, didn't even have a bite. Talked to several boaters and they had no bites, except one had caught two white bass. Didn't realize Clark had received a pretty good rain maybe the night before, or we wouldn't have gone. Water is pretty cool but still murky. Access to bloom cove is ify, better have 4WD if you attempt taking a camper in as the road in is full of DEEP washouts.

Donald Small said...

Sorry, i just had someone tell me about this. I encourage all of my customers to post here if they caught anything off of my bait. Any time I make a post about my shop, i always use my name so people know it's me. I havent posted here for a good little while, i just encourage others to do so.

So, with that being said, you can take that crappy attitude and shove it. its called MARKETING!

Anonymous said...

Are there even any bass at Meade Lake? I need some tips / suggestions on what to use / what areas to fish! I wanted to make a trip to Clark but from the sounds of it, there aren't very many bass there either!

I think the state needs to put money into arkalon / meade instead of buying those rangers those fancy new pickup trucks!

Anonymous said...

RE Donald: that guy is right this is not the forum for your marketing. I don't think the fishing is going to be any better on your $9/doz minnows than on the ones for 2.50/doz at meade or kingsdown.
RE Arkalon: its not a state fishing lake, it is a city lake.
RE Bass: There are tournament size bass in Clark!

Anonymous said...

KDWP----REGION 3
horsethief reservoir
why is this body of water no longer on the region 3 fishing report list, it was there before.
tahnk you

Donald Small said...

My minnows are only $5.50/dzn, i'd like to be a little bit cheaper, but i lease my building, i do not own it so there is quite a bit of overhead involved.

Anonymous said...

Wow 5.50 per dozen that's highway robbery!!! There is a place west of kingman you can buy 1,000 minnows for for $35.00

Anonymous said...

I will be making a trip to Clark here in the near future to try my luck and will post my results! Any tips on what areas / lures to use? Thanks Again!!!

Anonymous said...

In Kingman? Or KINGSDOWN? for those 1000 minnows for $35....please confirm...
looking forward to any report on Clark with these cool temps and the harvest moon!

Donald Small said...

I guarantee you at that price they eithe ronly sell to liscenced bait dealers, or are not in compliance (or simply dont now of) the new bait regulations. That price will not be the same after January 1st 2014, i am certain of it. The 2nd portion of the new bait regulations takes effect then. The 1st portion is bad enough and has already made prices skyrocket throughout the state. Not only that, but i'd like to see ANYONE sell them that cheap while paying to lease a retail location, especially in Liberal. It's just not gonna happen and thats why i sell more than just bait and outdoors stuff. The heart of my store is exotic pets. No-one would be able to keep business going with just bait and a building lease. If you say you can, then by all means do it but untill i see it, i say your way out in space with no rockets!

bc said...

Its Hartley fish farm 3 miles west of KINGMAN KANSAS and they give you the receipt just like any other baitshop

bc said...

They also have a website with prices included just so yall can check and make sure I aint pulling your leg.

Anonymous said...

Thanks bc! It would be nice to buy in bulk and keep them on hand in a stock tank...I doubt we need to be a dealer if it's for personal use and we are not selling them LOL. anyway, last I knew there was not limits on how many dozen we are allowed to buy.
We went to Clark Saturday and caught several White bass..lots of boats on the water, someone said a Bass Tourney. I don't know how well they did. Anyone Know?

Anonymous said...

I forgot to post my fishing report.

I went fishing for a few hours this weekend using a variety of different lures. Crankbaits, Spinnerbaits, Jigs, ETC. and only managed to catch 2 white bass.

I'm going to assume that the low lake levels destroyed whatever Largemouth bass population may have been present.

Low lake levels usually result in ALGAE BLOOMS which in turn will destroy the primary forage species such as shad and bluegill. If the primary food source of the bass is gone, the bass will follow.

It's downright shameful that the Meade hatchery which specializes in raising bluegill and bass can't seem to stock any of these fish in any Southwest Kansas lakes.

It's not rocket science, stock the lakes with plenty of forage fish I.E. bluegill and do it at a 10 to 1 ratio with bass. Here's an even better idea! Stock the lakes with FLORIDA strain Largemouth bass.

Terri said...

Was your report regarding Clark County lake?
We went for a couple hours yesterday and the water is clearing up...Caught and released several channel cats, young and Clean looking. New Stock? also quite a few white bass. Still looking for those ever elusive crappie! lol we were fishing from shore using minnows...

Terri said...

went back to clark monday and caught quite a few white bass again as well as a few of those young channel cats. The bait fish were going crazy! seen a gazillion in the shallows near the willows and cottonwoods that are now growing in water, and larger shad in deeper waters off the points. It's no wonder that the bass and crappie were not interested in our shiners. I put out a minnow trap near rocks and got several bluegill and crappie that were thumb sized. I am excited for next Spring! The water is clearing up nicely, I could see my trap 3 feet deep, a month ago it disappeared in a foot of water. The white bass hit more aggressively on the thumb sized bluegill then the shiners. I turned those baby crappie loose to be caught later in life lol!

Anonymous said...

Could you imagine how well stocking wipers and saugeye in Meade would be. Also wipers in Clark. Big 20 pound wipers ripping out your line in Clark. These SW lakes need some new life. It works in the other small lakes. Why not in here?

Anonymous said...

I would actually love to see some Trout at Arkalon. I would also like to see more Flathead and Bluegill/sunfish in the area as well, especially Clark and Meade.

Anonymous said...

Trout will be better in meade since the cimarron grassland is closed I wonder where we will have to go to catch some trout from liberal without having to travel 2.5 hrs away to catch 5 trouts and come back home thats not fair I wonder what can we do in order to get better action closer to home or just quit fishing.... since the kdwft dont look like they care about the southwest corner.

Anonymous said...

Interesting point being made about wipers and saugeye. Might work, might not. Does work in Pratt, Sheridan, and Antelope lakes which are ffty to eighty acres and have depths of around twelve feet or less.

LiberalFisherman said...

"Was your report regarding Clark County lake?"

Yes it was! I wasn't able to catch a single largemouth bass when I went that day! I did manage to catch a few white bass though.

On another note:
I'm going to be trying my luck again at Meade after I get my order of lures/baits in a week or so.

I am confident that if there are ANY bass present, I can catch them! However, you can't catch any fish if there aren't t any in the lake!

All of the fish me and my friend were able to catch the last time we went were under 8 inches!


As for stocking Saugeye in Meade, I think the reason they haven't done it is because there is a swimming area in the lake and Saugeye have some gnarly looking teeth!

I did read online that some idiot tried to stock crappie in Meade lake and that it resulted in an overpopulation of crappie and subsequent damage to game fish populations which may have existed!

I will post a fishing report for Meade in a week or so!

Donald Small said...

Anyone wanting to get in on some late season fishing near Liberal, I am still open but in a new location now. Come see me in the SouthGate Mall. I still have lots of stuff left (goldfish, minnows, Koi.) as far as live bait. Unfortunately im not going to be doing any trout stuff this year, maybe next winter.

terri said...

Lowel Aberson have Clark or meade been shocked for lunker readings this fall?

terri said...

Trout would be awesome in Clark, some stripers, wipers, and saugeye too...more variety in meade too but I don't think meade lake would sustain trout, Since the water gets so warm during summer...it is not a spring fed lake. That's what I was told. As far as the "idiot" that stocked crappie in meade...fishing was phenomenal years following that event for not just crappie but bass and cats too. It seems like the lake is just fished out now. Why wasn't there any feeders put out this last season?

Anonymous said...

The most recent information I could find on the fish shocking data was updated 02-01-2013 so I'm not sure if it is this years data or not!

http://kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Fishing/Fishing-Forecast/Largemouth-Bass/Lakes

I am also curious as to why fish feeders aren't being used at Meade. The fish feeders ensure plenty of food for the forage species and have proven time and time again at being an effective tool for improving fishing conditions at a lake.

I'm guessing the park couldn't afford to install and maintain them since as stated earlier, the park is too busy buying the park rangers those fancy new pickup trucks!

Anonymous said...

Here is my opinion about stocking trout in Clark sfl. First, the good thing about it is stocked trout in the fall would enable the overpopulation of small crappie to be controlled some by the trout throughout the winter months assuming the crappie are real small- 3/4 to 1 inch long. The not so good thing about stocking trout at Clark is that there is a lot of water for the trout to swim in there. The state would have to stock 4000 pounds minimum just to make it worth the trip for people who fish for trout. From what I see from the population stats for Clark county, there aren't a lot of people around there. If they were stocked and a handful of fishermen were on them EVERYDAY, you guys would get some but not all of them. Then, in summer when water temperatures rise, the trout that are still present will more than likely die because of being stressed. If there are deep springs bubbling in the lake, they could survive but they would be tough to catch. The main problem though, is you would need more people to fish for them. At the minimum 20-25 people per day. But I can tell you this- if trout were stocked at that lake, another element of life would be enhanced for some because there's nothing better some days than a full stringer of trout to take home.

Anonymous said...

I beg to differ. A full bucket of crappie to take home is better than a stringer of trout!!! Yum

Anonymous said...

KDWP-- would you please give me the phone number to whoever is in charge of making these stocking changes and that sort of thing, im sure all these taxpayers would love to give them a phone call to see what we can do to stock our lakes here in swks..thank you

Anonymous said...

Fisheries Biologist - (620) 227-8609

Anonymous said...

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Kansas_Secretary_of_Wildlife_and_Parks

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised that the SW Kansas lakes don't get the wipers or saugeye that a lot of the central and easter lakes get. Just look at the fishing reports in regions 1,2,and 4. It does work in a lot of these smaller lakes. If it doesn't work very well then stop it. Most of these SW Kansas lakes are already out of balance with stunted crappie, etc. What really is there to lose?

Anonymous said...

Can someone from kdwpt tell me when the trout will be stocked in scott lake? The stocking records show Nov. 15 but the season opens Nov. 1, also it says that there will be 8,860 stocked but according to the schedule there is only 5 stockings of 1,300 fish? Any info is appreciated

terri said...

Went to Clark Wednesday and caught quite a few white bass on the north end off the tock pilings. They were actively hitting minnows at about 15 inches deep under a bobber about 10 ft out from where water meets rocks. We don't keep them but they are fun to catch, we could have put several baggies of filets in the freezer. Still looking for crappie!

terri said...

Well I am hearing that trout WILL be stocked in meade sfl in January 2014. Anybody else heard the same?

terri said...

I got confirmation, meade lake will be stocked with 2000 trout then 1500 every two weeks beginning in January!!! So go fish and show your support! And please give a report here on your experience!

terri said...

Nobody is fishing???

Anonymous said...

we are in region 2. we just don't report it so we can protect what we have found so others can't take it from us. we're using worms and shad. biggest fish are pushing 6 pounds.

Anonymous said...

"we are in region 2. we just don't report it so we can protect what we have found so others can't take it from us. we're using worms and shad. biggest fish are pushing 6 pounds. "

Cool story bro! This is about region 3 so I don't see how you're post is even remotely helpful...

Anonymous said...

It's more help than you have been getting from Kansas lately. One location has an up to date report and that may be just for trout, while the rest haven't been reported on in nearly two months. Care to explain why? You guys know how to fish don't you?

Anonymous said...

Went fishing at the cimarron grasslands after calling the dodge city office to confirm the camp ground pond had been stocked with trout. Only caught 2 small channel cats no trout, tried several types of bait throughout the day.

terri said...

Went to Clark yesterday caught 3 white bass and a catfish..wind was rely bad. Went out today and fished the north end where the baitfish and whites were going nuts! Also caught a 18 inch black bass. Ended up turning it loose to be caught another day. Still no crappie. Meade lake will have trout soon, that will be fun!

Anonymous said...

Anybody else tried the trout fishing at the cimarron grasslands? Any luck?

Chuck said...

Scott Lake will continue to be stocked with trout during this cool water fishing season. Scott received its initial stocking of 2700 on Oct. 28th. The compliment of the stocking schedule is designed to maintain trout fishing opportunities throughout the season and maximize mileage efficiency in stocking efforts. The schedule includes 1800 trout on about Dec. 1st, 1300 near Jan. 1st, 2000 near Feb. 1st and the fifth stocking of 1400 at the first of March. When you find the fish action can be fast. Good Luck with this Winter Fishing Opportunity!

Forrest said...

In case anyone is wondering when lakes will be stocked in Region 3 with Trout, here is the link:

http://kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/Fishing/Special-Fishing-Programs-for-You/Trout-Fishing-Program/Stocking-Schedule/Region-3-Trout-Stocking-Schedule

I thought that you all would enjoy knowing the link so you can plan accordingly. I look forward to hearing more reports.

Anonymous said...

Went to the grasslands yesterday with some Wax Worms and powerbait, didnt catch a single thing, not even a nibble. Are you guys sure they even put any trout in the grasslands? It just seems odd that nothing even nibbled. Were the trout they stocked pretty small?

Anonymous said...

The dodge city office told me on the phone that the handicapped pond at the campground had been stocked october 31st. I've made 3 trips since and haven't caught anything other than extremely small channel cats. We have tried several different methods and baits all over the pond and haven't caught a single trout. And now with the weather changing the ponds are going to freeze over.

Anonymous said...

Maybe its a scam this year. I went to scott lake fished 5 different spots with baits and lures. Not one bite? The trout must be well educated this season....

Anonymous said...

I have 2 theories/opinion why the trout won't hit. They have been grain/pellet fed at the hatchery until they were loaded for delivery. It takes a month or so before they get ravenously hungry and start eating everything in site including that green stringy looking algae/moss you can see at this time of year. Some should still hit out of the truck after being stocked though. Which brings me to the 2nd theory. They {trout} may have already filled up with that mossy stuff. With the colder water their metabolism slows some. Then it's tough fishing but they will hit/eat in what I perceive to be 34/35 degree water temps from past experiences.

Anonymous said...

???? They are feed pellets at bennett springs up until they are released. They bite the next day! It doesn't take a month for them to start biting!!

Anonymous said...

The water temp. at Bennett Springs was 54 degrees when the above posts were posted. The water temps. in western Kansas where and when the 2 others tried was 10 to 15 degrees cooler water. Big difference pellet fed or not.

Anonymous said...

I've already reported this to the forestry service office in Elkhart. 12-6-13, Some knucklehead dumped some oil into the grassland ponds. A lot of fish are dead now and cleanup will be done when the extreme cold weather breaks(according to the forest service guy). If i ever find out who did this, i will tar and feather you personally and THEN take you to jail after running your naked butt down main street Elkhart for all to see. Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us you fricken knucklehead!

Anonymous said...

They did what? Wtf is that people thinking trust me they are going to wish that I won't find out who did it because if I do its gonna be REALLY BAD FOR THEM ALL THE OIL THAT THEY DUMPED IN THE PONDS IM GONNA MAKE THEM DRINK IT!!!

terri said...

Trout will make their debut Friday Dec 27 or Monday dec 30 at meade lake! Hope the weather is accommodating!

Anonymous said...

Watch out for the Goose hunters on Meade during the weekdays. Being an 80 acre lake and goose hunters usually using 12 and 10 gauges with large tungsten or steel shot, might want to wear safety glasses if you go. What was kdwpt thinking?

Anonymous said...

I went fishing for trout a couple of days ago and the lake was almost completely frozen over. I was unable to catch any trout from the shore in the few places where the ice had melted. I noticed that nobody else was really catching any either.

Anonymous said...

That prevoius trout comment was with regards to Meade Lake.

Anonymous said...

Re: geese...goose poop= contributing to summer algae bloom, far too many geese for an 80 acre impoundment. Glad they did it!

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Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me if there is any open water at scott lake or is it still ice covered? Thanks for any info

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