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Monday, January 13, 2014

Region 3 Fishing Reports (Southwestern KS) 2014


Use this article to comment on the Fishing in Region 3 or Southwestern Kansas. KDWPT Region 3 Fishing Reports can be found HERE.

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26 comments:

  1. Arkalon is actually fed from treated sewer water from Liberal. The fishing out there isnt what it used to be. The park itself is nice but the fishing is terrible only having catfish stocked 3-4 years running now and a slow but ever increasing Carp presence. They did stock 5000 fingerling bluegill but as the poster above stated, with that many catfish you may as well forget having too many of those survive.

    I have an idea though! Ok,so we all know how bad Carp are if they are not sterile (I hope!). Carp are actually REALLY fun to catch, even more so on pressured ponds like Arkalon. Someone should hold a "dirby" of sorts and the heaviest stringer of them wins a prize or a couple free nights in the campground or something.

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    1. Fantastic idea!!! A friendly competition amongst friends and family even would be great!

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  2. This would allow the ponds more room for fish to claim as their own and possibly help with keeping some of the gamefish in over the winter.

    some people might not understand it but what happens is the Carp in the early to mid winter months are very very active whilst the other game fish like bass, catfish, bluegill etc etc are starting to go dormant and not swim around as much. The carp will prey on smaller fish (some people say they dont but i've seen it!) like the tiny bluegill. Further on into winter the Carp will start "sucking" slime coat from catfish and scales from bass. This happens so often the gamefish are forced to move around and expend energy they would normally be saving for dire emergencies in non Carp infested waters. After being picked on long enough the game fish either A.)are driven from the ponds, down river possibly to be preyed on by carp in the river B.)They die, float to the top and are scavenged or sink to the bottom to be scavenged.

    The coarse metal grates over the pond outlets is a great idea as well because it could prevent the larger fish from being washed down river and if it happens to be a carp, is a chance for someone to catch it and dispose of it if not sterile.

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  3. In southwest kansas we call it as we see it. Northwest kansas has been in terrible multi year drought as well yet the fishing up there has been very good. What does this add up to? In my opinion the fisheries in southwest kansas are very poorly managed and as tax payers we have the right to express our frustration with the poor management of our limited fishing resource. I don't waste my time fishing in our region. Quite simply the lakes to our north are more than worth the drive to get out of the terrible fishing opportunities that are in our region. Clark is sad, Meade lake is worse. Arkalon should be privately managed. At least then it would be managed by someone who cares. Trash my opinion all you want. Bottom line the fishing report should read, go somewhere else and spend your efforts, time, and contribution to the local economy somewhere else.

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  4. In southwest kansas we call it as we see it. Northwest kansas has been in terrible multi year drought as well yet the fishing up there has been very good. What does this add up to? In my opinion the fisheries in southwest kansas are very poorly managed and as tax payers we have the right to express our frustration with the poor management of our limited fishing resource. I don't waste my time fishing in our region. Quite simply the lakes to our north are more than worth the drive to get out of the terrible fishing opportunities that are in our region. Clark is sad, Meade lake is worse. Arkalon should be privately managed. At least then it would be managed by someone who cares. Trash my opinion all you want. Bottom line the fishing report should read, go somewhere else and spend your efforts, time, and contribution to the local economy somewhere else.

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  5. I agree that Arkalon needs to be privately managed again so long as its done right and fairly, I know all too well how the city of liberal operates!. The biggest thing I have noticed since the state took over those ponds is the fishing has turned to utter poop. What happened to the Black Bass, the Bluegill, the LARGE catfish like flatheads????? Then I notice the stocking of the 5000 fingerling bluegill. I was out there today and those are some pretty darned small fingerlings. With a stocking of massive ammounts of catfish for 3-4 years running now do you honestly think those bluegill will reach a catchable size before being eaten? Bluegills are like catfish candy! Seriously though, fingerlings? I can buy 7-9 inch Bluegill by the pound on the open market with what little I make so there is no reason the state shouldn't be able to supply those ponds with bigger fish! I have been going into Oklahoma and Texas more and more these past couple of years because of how bad the fishing is out here. Oklahoma has ONE good lake in the panhandle (Evans Chambers) and every time I go there it is an absolute blast with flatheads, channels, Gar, crappie and bass. It is also free to enter. Our state cant even take care of the 3 good places out here (Meade, Arkalon and Clark), one of which they charge for! I'm sorry but you guys are going to have to step it up a bit this is getting bad. Clark I can completely understand due to the drought but hey guess what? The lakes full now and other places are hoppin' so its time to get to work!

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  6. You know, Clark has a lot of potential due to its size and depth(biggest/deepest in sw Kansas). Why doesn't the state come in and make it an actual, managed park with infrastructure, etc. Power would be easy to obtain with that giant wind farm in the area. Water may be a bit tricky but way back in the days of old(sorry i'm 55 now)it did have water running out there so im sure the line is still there. If the state came in and built that place up it could be a great opportunity for them.

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    1. Primative camping at clark is alot of its appeal. I vote no on water and power! Yes to more law enforcement presence for checking licenses and catch, enforcing boating laws and making people put out their fires and pick up their trash!!!

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  7. Terri, I actually got into a pretty heated debate with someone on the Management/ownership or Arkalon. It was my belief that the state had purchased the ponds themselves a couple years ago. This is, in a way, true and in another way, not. The way it was explained to me is, The City of Liberal still own the Campground, roads etc and the state owns the physical ponds and stocks the fish. I do know for a fact that the City of Liberal has not been in control of stocking them for at least 3 years. When the City of Liberal was doing it though, the fishing was way better.

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  8. The state does not own any of the ponds in arkalon. they only stock them and set regs. as for the rest of the lakes managed by district three. Clark, nothing needs to be done it will recover on its own. For two years you had fish crammed into 200 acres now they have a full 300. They are still there just more scattered. Meade, too many nutrients only way to quickly fix this is open the lake to goose hunting full time for the season not just Sundays in jan. As for the carp, to solve this, the lake must be drained and killed. This will result in a lost of three years of the fishery and ALL the big fish currently in the lake. Is this what you want? Cinnamon River

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  9. I agree on the Meade lake situation. I must be drained, dead dry. So many small lakes this size need redone every ten to 20 years. You always have people who put in white crappie which may do okay for awhile then they are mostly a stunted population. I have heard that black crappie aren't as prone to stunt. I say drain Meade late summer then refill it in the winter. Instead of just putting in bass, bluegill, and channel cat, the KDWP show put in black crappie BEFORE others put in white crappie like usual. Maybe this will help. Studies show that shad kind of take over in many small lakes after around ten years. Some people stock these too in little state lakes without biologists' approval.
    Clark is big enough to rebound and it has proven this historically.

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  10. If you drain Meade you should let it set dormant for 3-4 years. Doing that will enable rain run-off and winter thaw cycles to re-cut creek channels deeper and to allow brush/saplings to establish themselves to add cover for new fish. Silted over rock/gravel piles can be exposed again if given time too. As much as some of you complain about Meade this is the most viable and cheapest route for a better lake to fish. 10 years plus waiting would be even better. If you are going to drain the lake in late summer you will need to start public fish salvage now.

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  11. meade will probably not be drained .that will cause a loss of revenue for the state park. other than the carp situation it is not warranted.catch the carp and take them home and bury them in your garden. they grow big tomatoes. i just posted that as the only viable fix for the problem that would eliminate it. apparently you retards would give up ten years of fishing just because you you don't know how to catch smart bass. cinnamon river

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  12. I bet the carp in Meade are smarter than the fishermen who fish there. Good luck. Fortunately, in region 2, we have other places to fish if a lake was to be renovated. I'm willing to bet any drained lake around here would generate more revenue for the state than Meade lake in it's present condition.

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  13. I'll be honest I don't know much about Meade lake since I haven't been there in probably ten years, but I do know that the fishing at clark has been pretty good the few times I have been there this year. And I plan on going down again this weekend to try for some more cats, and to see if maybe i can get me a flathead or two this year. All i know is there needs to be a lot less complaining on here. Maybe you people that are saying the fishing sucks need to try changing things up, we all have bad fishing trips but don't come on here complaining about the fishing because you can't catch anything. Just learn to fish.

    On another note I don't know about game wardens harassing people but I am very happy when i am checked. On that note I want the KDWPT to know that the game warden they have patrolling Horsetheif is awesome very respectful and has checked me more in the last three years than I have ever been checked in my entire life we need more like him.

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  14. Outdoor John6/22/2014 11:26 AM

    How much can you really do for small state lakes like Meade in places like SW Kansas? Garden, Liberal, and Dodge, plus lots of smaller towns which would add up to over 100,000 people. Even with a small percentage of people fishing that is a lot of pressure. A crappie harvest study was done in a 30,000 plus acre reservoir in Missouri. Around 60% of nine inch plus crappie were harvested each spring. If a small lake has an occasional bumper crop of good sized crappie one year...I doubt most were survive to the next year. Word would really get out. Letting Meade go dry for a few years is not going to happen. To the guy who tries everything at Clark....maybe the Pope should bless you tackle. Ha. Negative confession hurts what you try to do. Small lakes closer to Wichita and Kansas City have good fisheries more often I think because people fish in the larger reservoirs and ponds taking some pressure off of state lakes. Look at Sheridan Lake and Antelope lake which are closer to Norton Reservoir and Webster. Better fisheries than Meade usually. Lowell is a good biologist and knows you can only do so much with what you have.

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  15. I figured it's worth a mention I'm out at Clark right now and it's raining heavily and flooding massively. It did the same thing yesterday afternoon for close to 3 hours. Be careful near the cliffs if your in your boats. There has already been a small land slide on the NE side. The lake looks like a swirling mess. White Bass and Walleye are going nuts. Going to try for big flatheads after sunset tonight.


    To everyone saying this lake has limited potential you are dead wrong. When in its normal pattern this lake is dynamite IF and ONLY IF properly stocked after heavy rains and floods!

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  16. Did it flood over the spillway again Don?

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  17. Heading out to Clark tonight. Went last Friday night and caught two channels each only a couple lbs off of a hot dog and a worm. Had a few misses on shrimp, most activity was around 8-9 just before full on sunset. Fished off the west side points. Now that I found this page I'll post what I find tonight.

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  18. Fished yesterday caught 15 crappie 6ft deep on brush jigging with minnows. Very subtle bite, not aggressively feeding. Tons showing on fish finder. Water temp 80° depth where we fished 14+ feet. Heavy rains off and on all week prior.

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  19. Where were the brush piles you fished? Have you found any new ones that the flood last year washed in?

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    1. Lowell placed new brush at meade lake and I'm told he did the same at clark since that post, but have not been out to clark since we caught those crappie. There are several brush piles along the dam between the cement. Pillar and the spillway and a pallet pile along the bluff south of bloom cove, about 50 ft out from shore. There is still quite a bit of brush where the buoy used to mark it north of the point near the first boat ramp on the east shore.

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  20. Warren Stone Lake is full and running over again finally now we just need some fish.

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  21. Does anybody know the deal about Proffitt Lake? Is it a public lake and how is the fishing there?

    The GPS location is 37* 12'04.85" N 100*03'12.41" W

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    1. It is a private lake. Only friends and family members get to fish it.

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Please limit your comments to naming the lake(s) you fished, species caught, what methods were used, where and when you fished, and helpful tips for others. Comments that do not meet these criteria or are not useful for angling success will be deleted.